The Stax Thread III
Dec 10, 2022 at 6:55 PM Post #23,072 of 25,565
I stand for what I said. Personal anecdotes do not have any meaning. There is no objective data showing they make any audible difference. Show me a DBRT saying otherwise and I may change my mind.
. . . I have been anecdotally enjoying the placebo effect of UPOCC solid core cables for many years now! :beerchug:
 
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Dec 11, 2022 at 3:42 AM Post #23,073 of 25,565
This is not an audio science forum with peer-reviewed posts. :)
This is a forum to share subjective experiences, in addition to scientific, technical, monetary etc. arguments about products.

Cables? A lot of experiences, a lot of science. There is room, context and bounds for both.
Is it relevant experience (for me), moreover, is it relevant science, covering those experiences, and what's missing, if anything?
Experience is a strong motivator, but may be misleading indeed, so check twice and check from all angles.
In turn, dogmatic science (an oxymoron) may be keeping one in a comfortable corner, but away from relevant experiences.
Everyone should make their own decision: do your investigations, make a decision, enjoy and move on.
 
Dec 22, 2022 at 6:41 AM Post #23,075 of 25,565
I own a stax l300 , looking for comparisons with 007 and other omegas
is it worth overpaying and buying them , are they much better than any labda
what's different there besides the round shape
they cost a lot of money, I would like to understand if I need them or if l300 is enough for me
I will try to find more information about 007 especially early mk1, saw opinions that it was in mk1 that sound was
 
Dec 22, 2022 at 11:05 AM Post #23,076 of 25,565
I own a stax l300 , looking for comparisons with 007 and other omegas
is it worth overpaying and buying them , are they much better than any labda
what's different there besides the round shape
they cost a lot of money, I would like to understand if I need them or if l300 is enough for me
I will try to find more information about 007 especially early mk1, saw opinions that it was in mk1 that sound was
L300 is good but stock steep bass rolloff is a large limiting factor.

After mods such as sealing off the bass port and other pads(GL2000) the L300 is on a competely other level.

I would rather listen to modded L300 than stock 007.

Modded 007 is truly great, better than Lambda in all aspects, just about what I would ever need, the cups not pivoting is abit weird though, other than that great build quality.

Then again I like EQ and everything modded and have made my L300 into closedbacks and are selling my perfect modded 007 because I want to do even crasier things so maybe dont listen to me :)
 
Dec 22, 2022 at 12:33 PM Post #23,077 of 25,565
I own a stax l300 , looking for comparisons with 007 and other omegas
is it worth overpaying and buying them , are they much better than any labda
what's different there besides the round shape
they cost a lot of money, I would like to understand if I need them or if l300 is enough for me
I will try to find more information about 007 especially early mk1, saw opinions that it was in mk1 that sound was
Amp plays such a huge role with electrostatic performance that you almost can't decouple a headphone comparison without the amp context. Especially when you're talking about relatively easy to drive lambdas versus the VERY hard to drive 007. If sticking with Stax-brand amps, or amps at that level, I'd probably stick to Lambdas, honestly.
 
Dec 22, 2022 at 12:39 PM Post #23,078 of 25,565
Amp plays such a huge role with electrostatic performance that you almost can't decouple a headphone comparison without the amp context. Especially when you're talking about relatively easy to drive lambdas versus the VERY hard to drive 007. If sticking with Stax-brand amps, or amps at that level, I'd probably stick to Lambdas, honestly.
I use a very interesting amplifier on apex high voltage operational amplifiers, its power exceeds the capabilities of the l300 and the power is there with a margin

in 007 I am confused by the price and availability, they are difficult to get, they cost more than 5-6 times more than my l300

so I decided to raise this topic, maybe someone will tell me that I don’t need it)
 
Dec 22, 2022 at 3:52 PM Post #23,079 of 25,565
L300 is good but stock steep bass rolloff is a large limiting factor.

After mods such as sealing off the bass port and other pads(GL2000) the L300 is on a competely other level.

I would rather listen to modded L300 than stock 007.

Modded 007 is truly great, better than Lambda in all aspects, just about what I would ever need, the cups not pivoting is abit weird though, other than that great build quality.

Then again I like EQ and everything modded and have made my L300 into closedbacks and are selling my perfect modded 007 because I want to do even crasier things so maybe dont listen to me :)
What amp were/are you using with the 007, with the L300?
 
Dec 22, 2022 at 7:13 PM Post #23,080 of 25,565
I tweak my 007tA (Japan market) by cover volume controller for anti EMI, attach foQ sheet on some places board and transfomer.
Also change power cord from Furutech 34Ag-II to stock one, no ground poles used.
Also clean some resistor which was with metalic dirt when manufacturing. I did not measure but certainly the dust makes changing of resistor value.

I like the result. Wish I had done it earlier.



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Dec 22, 2022 at 7:27 PM Post #23,081 of 25,565
I use a very interesting amplifier on apex high voltage operational amplifiers, its power exceeds the capabilities of the l300 and the power is there with a margin

in 007 I am confused by the price and availability, they are difficult to get, they cost more than 5-6 times more than my l300

so I decided to raise this topic, maybe someone will tell me that I don’t need it)

You really just need to try and hear them. I have a L300 that I use as a backup/test pair. Keep in mind my pair is unmodded, but there is a huge leap between it and the 009/007 when powered correctly (more so for the 007 here). That said, the L300 is pretty good for the price. With the 007 specifically, once you include an amp that can drive them properly, the price range difference becomes pretty large. And unfortunately in this hobby price to performance ratios aren't really linear in fashion as you upgrade.

But I would try to hear them for yourself.
 
Dec 22, 2022 at 11:34 PM Post #23,083 of 25,565
Guess what Santa dropped off today? The Stax Sigma Normal Bias, circa 1977. :)

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Dec 23, 2022 at 2:29 AM Post #23,085 of 25,565

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