[ALRAINBOW]

If it towards a stac then it's more detailed and not colored like the old one And the he60. And that makes feel good cause then it's just show case pc to own

 

[Sal1950]

   
Do you really need a Sub with the La Scala II ??

IMHO Yes, I owned a pair of the originals for 30 years. The factory specs for them puts the bottom end  -4 db at 51hz so if you want the bottom octaves they'll need some help. Problem being finding a sub system that can match the LaScala's for speed and dynamic life and impact. I ran a pair of the early 7 foot tall Hsu subs with 400+ wpc from a pair of NAD amps running in bridged mono mode. LaScals's were powered by VTL 80 watt tube monoblocks. System had incredible life and breath, I've only heard a few modern specialist horn systems at HiFi shows that matched it. System would never have fit in the vastly downsized home I retired to in Florida, but I do miss it badly.

 

[up late]

Heard the new Orpheus today: precision, precision, precision. Didn't remind me all that much of the original.

If you're looking for a headphone equivalent to an IWC Schaffhausen watch, this is it.




Me, I'm more a Panerai kind of guy who'd take the old Orpheus over the new one in a heartbeat.  

But I really liked the HD800S.

now the hd800s is something that i can aspire to own. so you've heard a production model?

 

[up late]

Amen
Well said

yep. that point's been made more than once here but folks either don't get it or choose to ignore it. either way, criticising the price of a sota statement headphone system in a high-end forum and comparing it to similarly priced full-sized hi fi systems is kinda pointless imo. talk about comparing apples with oranges.

 

[Music Alchemist]

I just noticed that Jude published some more stuff about the HE 1060 at the top of this page:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/a/head-fi-buying-guide-ultra-high-end-headphones-summit-fi
 
(Only a partial transcript of the video, though. Still nice to read it in text form.)

 

[james444]

   
- During your listening cession of the new Orpheus, was it using it's internal DAC or was it connected to an external DAC ? Which one ? which source ? 
 
- You say "precision, precision, precision".  Was this without loosing some musicality or saoul ?  Some people find the 009 "boring" because more analytic than "musical" !
 
thanks

 
It was at a local exhibition and you had to queue to be admitted to the extra room that Sennheiser had reserved for the Orpheus II (according to them, one of only three units currently in existence). So I knew I wouldn't get all that much listening time and I'm afraid, I didn't ask about the source chain. They had an expensive looking CD player there, which I believe was digitally connected to the Orpheus system.
 
I've alway liked how @DavidMahler described the original Orpheus in his Battle Of The Flagships, because I heard it the exact same way:
 

 The Orpheus is the most musical sounding headphone I have ever heard. It is so involving - so realistic sounding - so pathos-filled, but most of all - it is transparent.
 
...
 
 I wouldn't call the HE90 a colored headphone per se, but it does feature colorations that, in my opinion, succeed in enhancing the music.

 
The new Orpheus is none of that. I couldn't detect any colorations at all and I wouldn't describe it as particularly "musical" or "euphonic" sounding. The overall impression I got was that of a highly analytical and transparent precision tool for music reproduction, no more, no less.
 
To give you an example, every time I've heard the original Orpheus with piano music (imo one of the hardest instruments to reproduce), I've been highly impressed by how it managed to convey all the energy of a forte piece without sounding hard or edged in any way. This has been all the more apparent when comparing it side by side with the HD800, which sounds almost ruthlessly hard-edged with piano next to the Orpheus I.
 
Now, I won't go into discussion about which kind of reproduction is more realistic, because depending on circumstances (studio, concert hall, distance to the instrument), listener perception and preference may turn out very differently. I'll just say that the new Orpheus strikes me as a clear step away from its predecessor's smooth / musical / euphonic / colored / sugarcoated (...feel free to pick your preferred adjective sound signature towards a more matter-of-fact / no-nonsense one.
 

now the hd800s is something that i can aspire to own. so you've heard a production model?

 
It seems so, since the Senn rep simply said this was their new model. I'm more into IEMs than full-sized phones, so I didn't know that the HD800S wasn't even out yet.
 
What strikes me as interesting (and somewhat ironic) is that the sound signature updates from HD800 to HD800S and Orpheus I to Orpheus II seem to go into opposite directions. The new HD800S sounds definitely more musical / euphonic imo than its predecessor. Probably something that people tried to coax out of the older model by pairing it with tube amps.
 
ht:impressions

 

[Nomax]

Here are the Video and some Pics with my MEET&GREET with the ORPHEUS 2

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=4YiE1HErQ54






REGARDS CRAZY NOMAX

 

[wink]

Color me impressed that you don't look very impressed......     

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Color me impressed that you don't look very impressed......     

 
Watch the vid. He's practically dancing.

 

[Nomax]

Color me impressed that you don't look very impressed......     

IT'S the PURSUIT OF THE PERFECT SOUND but it was not THE PURSUIT OF THE PERFEKT BUILD/CONSTRUCTION(only the HP!!/AMP is 100%TOP NOTCH!!)

NOMAX

 

[mulder01]

Video is deleted already?

 

[mulder01]

   
It was at a local exhibition and you had to queue to be admitted to the extra room that Sennheiser had reserved for the Orpheus II (according to them, one of only three units currently in existence). So I knew I wouldn't get all that much listening time and I'm afraid, I didn't ask about the source chain. They had an expensive looking CD player there, which I believe was digitally connected to the Orpheus system.
 
I've alway liked how @DavidMahler described the original Orpheus in his Battle Of The Flagships, because I heard it the exact same way:
 
 
The new Orpheus is none of that. I couldn't detect any colorations at all and I wouldn't describe it as particularly "musical" or "euphonic" sounding. The overall impression I got was that of a highly analytical and transparent precision tool for music reproduction, no more, no less.
 
To give you an example, every time I've heard the original Orpheus with piano music (imo one of the hardest instruments to reproduce), I've been highly impressed by how it managed to convey all the energy of a forte piece without sounding hard or edged in any way. This has been all the more apparent when comparing it side by side with the HD800, which sounds almost ruthlessly hard-edged with piano next to the Orpheus I.
 
Now, I won't go into discussion about which kind of reproduction is more realistic, because depending on circumstances (studio, concert hall, distance to the instrument), listener perception and preference may turn out very differently. I'll just say that the new Orpheus strikes me as a clear step away from its predecessor's smooth / musical / euphonic / colored / sugarcoated (...feel free to pick your preferred adjective sound signature towards a more matter-of-fact / no-nonsense one.
 

 
A few more reviews like this one, and the Orpheus I price will be on the way up...

 

[up late]

It was at a local exhibition and you had to queue to be admitted to the extra room that Sennheiser had reserved for the Orpheus II (according to them, one of only three units currently in existence). So I knew I wouldn't get all that much listening time and I'm afraid, I didn't ask about the source chain. They had an expensive looking CD player there, which I believe was digitally connected to the Orpheus system.

I've alway liked how @DavidMahler
described the original Orpheus in his Battle Of The Flagships, because I heard it the exact same way:


The new Orpheus is none of that. I couldn't detect any colorations at all and I wouldn't describe it as particularly "musical" or "euphonic" sounding. The overall impression I got was that of a highly analytical and transparent precision tool for music reproduction, no more, no less.

To give you an example, every time I've heard the original Orpheus with piano music (imo one of the hardest instruments to reproduce), I've been highly impressed by how it managed to convey all the energy of a forte piece without sounding hard or edged in any way. This has been all the more apparent when comparing it side by side with the HD800, which sounds almost ruthlessly hard-edged with piano next to the Orpheus I.

Now, I won't go into discussion about which kind of reproduction is more realistic, because depending on circumstances (studio, concert hall, distance to the instrument), listener perception and preference may turn out very differently. I'll just say that the new Orpheus strikes me as a clear step away from its predecessor's smooth / musical / euphonic / colored / sugarcoated (...feel free to pick your preferred adjective sound signature towards a more matter-of-fact / no-nonsense one.


It seems so, since the Senn rep simply said this was their new model. I'm more into IEMs than full-sized phones, so I didn't know that the HD800S wasn't even out yet.

What strikes me as interesting (and somewhat ironic) is that the sound signature updates from HD800 to HD800S and Orpheus I to Orpheus II seem to go into opposite directions. The new HD800S sounds definitely more musical / euphonic imo than its predecessor. Probably something that people tried to coax out of the older model by pairing it with tube amps.

nice impressions james. very interested in hearing the new hd800s. might send you a pm about how the hd800 and hd800s compare to the k3003. wouldn't want to take this thread ot.

 

[bmichels]

Here are the Video and some Pics with my MEET&GREET with the ORPHEUS 2

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=4YiE1HErQ54






REGARDS CRAZY NOMAX

You seems to be in eaven, touched by the grâce !

Were you using the DIGITAL out or the ANALOG out of your AK player ? In other words were you using the Orpheus 's internal DAC !

Thanks

 

[Nomax]

Video is deleted already?

No,it was in wrong screen position,here is it NOW ONLINE MY VIDEO in the right position

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=4YiE1HErQ54


REGARDS NOMAX