The Schiitstorm: Next-Gen Magni 2 and Modi 2 Family!
Jan 8, 2015 at 12:31 AM Post #1,321 of 1,909
   
eek.gif

 
It better change significantly, because they sound unacceptable as of now. Crossing both fingers!
 
But seriously...the HD 590 is possibly the coolest-looking pair of headphones I've ever seen.

 
Hmm I have my reservations about if it's the coolest, but I'll definitely give it the "one of the coolest" award 
tongue.gif

 
Not sure how much you bought them for but if you still don't find them satisfying, maybe take a look at the newer HD600/650. Absolutely fantastic headphones and pair very well with the M/M stack. And they sound alright out of a headphone jack too 
tongue.gif
. For $320 right now, they are a steal
 
Jan 8, 2015 at 12:35 AM Post #1,323 of 1,909
  Hmm I have my reservations about if it's the coolest, but I'll definitely give it the "one of the coolest" award 
tongue.gif

 
Not sure how much you bought them for but if you still don't find them satisfying, maybe take a look at the newer HD600/650. Absolutely fantastic headphones and pair very well with the M/M stack. And they sound alright out of a headphone jack too 
tongue.gif
. For $320 right now, they are a steal

 
I'm either getting Focal Alpha 50 speakers or Focal Spirit Professional headphones next.
 
I'm somewhat interested in the HD 600, but nowhere near as much as the FSP. What confuses me, though, is that the HD 590 is supposed to be similar to the HD 600, except less neutral and more bright and exciting...but it's anything but exciting so far. =/
 
Jan 8, 2015 at 12:58 AM Post #1,325 of 1,909
   
I'm either getting Focal Alpha 50 speakers or Focal Spirit Professional headphones next.
 
I'm somewhat interested in the HD 600, but nowhere near as much as the FSP. What confuses me, though, is that the HD 590 is supposed to be similar to the HD 600, except less neutral and more bright and exciting...but it's anything but exciting so far. =/

 
Sorry to hear about your HD 590 :/ FSP looks pretty interesting though, good luck. 
 
And if you're looking for a bright sound signature, I have take back my recommendation of the 650 haha. They exhibit a dark sound with smooth highs.  
 
   
Yeah, we talked about that, remember? =D
 
By the way, I think it's cool how you also use the "real arrows" in your signature.
 
By the way #2: if I send my Modi 2 on a tour, letting Modi 2 Uber owners compare them, you're on my short list.
cool.gif

 
Ha, nice new signature I see there.
And I like that Nagisa avatar! 
 
Sweet, looking forward to comparing them 
smily_headphones1.gif
 
 
Jan 8, 2015 at 1:06 AM Post #1,326 of 1,909
  Sorry to hear about your HD 590 :/ FSP looks pretty interesting though, good luck. 
 
And if you're looking for a bright sound signature, I have take back my recommendation of the 650 haha. They exhibit a dark sound with smooth highs.  
 
Ha, nice new signature I see there.
And I like that Nagisa avatar! 
 
Sweet, looking forward to comparing them 
smily_headphones1.gif
 

 
Yep, it sounds dull without an amp, but I can tell it has potential. (All the reviews I read before buying it talked about how exciting it sounds, so here's hoping.)
 
I'm actually looking for a neutral sound signature right now, and the FSP is said to be more neutral than just about anything else. (I am interested in darker and brighter stuff too, though.)
 
For the record, I didn't steal the arrows from you; I just happened to use them in the past.
 
Oh god...you know anime. I'm pretty sure your avatar isn't you, though.
tongue_smile.gif

 
Here is a link to my MAL profile. I've watched between 71 and 100 days worth of anime.
ph34r.gif

 
Jan 8, 2015 at 6:17 AM Post #1,330 of 1,909
Finally, Modi 2 Uber Arrived.

First impressions is it is well built, looks nice and that new brushed aluminum is nice. I think i saw somewhere the button rattle is the way it was designed (not to be shaken like a martini) . Edges are a little sharp nothing to worry about for me.

Now the Comparison between the original Modi and the Modi 2U.
Please keep in mind I am not using headphones. Modi and Modi2U go to my NAD pre amplifier which then goes to powered monitors so that may play a factor in my results

At first I just swapped out the usb and rca cables and ran through some songs on the Modi 2U then went through the same on the Modi and then I realized oh schiit the wyrd is still in mix so removed it from the chain. I will get to the wyrd in due time.

I bounced Back and forth Between tracks from Debbie Williams, Daft Punk, Hurt, Lady Antebellum, Zac Brown Band, Lindsey Stirling and When I say back and forth I switched each Modi in at least 4 times. Using the same tracks from each artist. And the Verdict is... Modi2 U still has the signature of the Modi. I would describe as clean and detailed and fairly well balanced but here is what jumped out at first and I mean immediately, Modi 2 U has a Wider Sound stage and improved clarity in the higher frequency.  Cymbals and higher notes on guitars and even female vocals are more refined and the almost stand out in a very pronounced and very pleasant manner over the Original Modi. After more listening i found the Mid range appears slightly set back from the original Modi which can be because f the more pronounced highs but is presented in a more refined manner over the original Modi. There seems to more extension into the lower frequencies and was controlled well.


I have seen an earlier post say not much difference between modi and modi 2 Uber. I will say that  "not much" is arbitrary to each individual.

Now onto Modi + Wyrd and Modi 2U + Wyrd

When I first plugged in the Modi 2 Uber other than the wider sound stage and more refined highs it sounded similar to the Original Modi. Noise floor seemed similar and the sound stage was not as wide but lower on the Modi. Until i had the oh schiit moment and realized wyrd needs to go. The results are

Wyrd + Modi is a very good combo for me I noticed a lower noise floor, more detail and wider and lower sound stage on the Modi+ wyrd as opposed to Modi alone. 

The Modi2U + Wyrd . The noise floor difference if any is negligible but the sound stage is just a bit lower. The highs and mids seemed just slightly smoother. There may be a more pronounced difference on cans. I may utilize the headphone output on my Preamp one day to dig deeper.

Overall my impressions is there is a more refined sound to the Modi 2 Uber. Based on the slight mods to the Standard Modi 2 from the original  I would expect the difference in the Modi 2 And the Modi 2 Uber to be similar to the Modi and the Modi 2 Uber. ( Hopefully someone can make that comparison to either confirm or prove me wrong as I dont have one to compare ) The most Glaring thing again is the wider sound stage which may or may not be evident on headphones but the highs are more detailed and up front and very exciting to me ( Like when I say treat, And my dogs ears perk straight up type excitement). and it seems to reach deeper into the lower frequencies to create an overall wider range than the original modi. Noise floor is lower, which may be more prominent on headphones.


The other thing is the Modi2 Uber + Wyrd made small differences to the sound stage, detail and noise floor which to me is still worth it, but honestly I would not miss it much with the Modi2 Uber like I would with the original Modi. Its not a scientific double bind test no fancy charts just my impressions.

For any one on the fence of Modi upgrade to Modi 2 Uber or looking into a Modi 2 at all I would highly recommend looking into the Modi 2 Uber. If the Modi and Modi 2 are similar in their sound signature as I suspect then the Modi2 Uber is absolutely worth the extra $50 over the Standard Modi 2.And for those who was curious about the wyrd with the Uber. if you have it run with it but unless you want to squeeze out the every extra drop from the modi 2 Uber you may not even need it. I have crappy power and crappy usb ports. Even the Schiit website does not guarantee any changes, so its a gamble overall but with Modi 2U it's an even bigger gamble if you will notice a difference since at least to me the difference is small. With Modi 2 Uber you had to really listen for it. I believe if I did not have the wyrd i would not feel the need for it, the improvements to Modi 2 Uber possibly the use of a wall wart has made that much of a difference.

Now the Boss is home and she has a headache. I have to go turn the music off so If you all will excuse me I have a Shiny new Fulla to go play with so I don't get a monitor thrown at my head.


Haha! That's why God invented headphones and Jason and Mike invented Schiit DACs & Headphone amplifiers.
 
Jan 8, 2015 at 11:45 AM Post #1,332 of 1,909
I've just acquired a Magni 2 to be used with my AKG K712 and FiiO X3 but TBH I don't think it "improved" the sound much other than adding more volume to it if I turn up the knob. My 712 sounds same when plugged directly into X3 which can get them to enough volume on its that I think magni is not needed... Also I had to plug it into headphone out with high gain on both amp and FiiO and volume set to 30 (50%) on FiiO as plugging them into line out produces flat - no fun - sound. With headphone out I get to tune Bass and Treble in FiiO. So looks like if you have a FiiO X3 and an AKG 7-series headphone - it can drive them very well on its own.
 
Jan 8, 2015 at 11:52 AM Post #1,333 of 1,909
I've just acquired a Magni 2 to be used with my AKG K712 and FiiO X3 but TBH I don't think it "improved" the sound much other than adding more volume to it if I turn up the knob. My 712 sounds same when plugged directly into X3 which can get them to enough volume on its that I think magni is not needed... Also I had to plug it into headphone out with high gain on both amp and FiiO and volume set to 30 (50%) on FiiO as plugging them into line out produces flat - no fun - sound. With headphone out I get to tune Bass and Treble in FiiO. So looks like if you have a FiiO X3 and an AKG 7-series headphone - it can drive them very well on its own.

 
It may sound different with a different DAC, since you're just amplifying the signal from the DAC in your X3.
 
Line out bypasses the device's internal amp to feed a cleaner signal to an external amp. What you were doing with the headphone out was double amping, which is not generally recommended. You should set the volume of your device to maximum, then control volume with the amp, especially when using line out.
 
Also, line out may actually bypass the internal DAC as well on some devices.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top