Replicant187
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That always makes me chuckle. As if those of us doubtful of dubious "audiophile" claims don't want good sound. Flowery rhetoric and sighted listening prove nothing. Why doesn't stereophile do real scientific testing? They'd lose all their readers who can't believe their $10000 amp sounds the same as a $200 one. Removing all your tags JUST to get your dap to play? The cheapest radio shack player reads tags just fine. If these companies can't put together a unit that provides basic functionality, what makes you think they know anything about sound? They don't fix them because suckers keep opening their wallets for the next broken iteration. Who's really in denial here?
That always makes me chuckle. As if those of us doubtful of dubious "audiophile" claims don't want good sound. Flowery rhetoric and sighted listening prove nothing. Why doesn't stereophile do real scientific testing? They'd lose all their readers who can't believe their $10000 amp sounds the same as a $200 one. Removing all your tags JUST to get your dap to play? The cheapest radio shack player reads tags just fine. If these companies can't put together a unit that provides basic functionality, what makes you think they know anything about sound? They don't fix them because suckers keep opening their wallets for the next broken iteration. Who's really in denial here?
The Sony NWZ-ZX1 has been in my online shopping cart for a week and I'm just not motivated to click the buy button. Some of my lack of motivation goes to installing Viper4Android (V4A) on my old Galaxy S2 smartphone. I'm left to wonder what is suppose to be better about the ZX1.
Even without firsthand evidence, I can believe boutique DAPs sound better than an iPod (with the earphones I use). My iPod Touch 5G (using the SE846) with Apple's music player has a 2D in your face (reasonably clear) center mid-range. Some louder foreground sounds panned right and left are also passable in clarity (but not good). However, the quieter parts of music are blurred. The treble (no matter its location) is not sharp. The bass is so so and lacks sub-bass extension. The iPod's tonality sounds artificial. The iPod Touch 5G and 846 may just be a bad pairing.
My Galaxy S2 (after installing V4A) is better in all categories (clarity, bass, 3D soundstage, dynamics, etc) than my iPod Touch 5G (paired with the 846). Perhaps software improvements could raise the level of the iPod. I have many of the apps for the iPod (Accudio, Equalizer, EQu, etc.,) that are discussed here, but they don't help much IMO.
So again, I don't have any trouble believing the boutique DAPs are a step up from the iPod/iPhone sound, but would it be a step up for me now (post V4A)? I have my doubts.
I would like to point out that the S2 has dampening issues, audible stereo crosstalk and distortion due to a poorly designed audio circuit.
This is me whenever I read people arguing about DAPs, DACs, amps and cables. There is no electrically measurable difference, no difference that can be detected through blind testing. Yes I see no problem in discussing the various colourations tube amps can provide, but discussing solid state electronics which theoretically, when properly designed, should be 100% utterly, completely transparent is a waste of mental effort. Any differences are purely psychological. I rest my case.
Edit: I would also like to add that I passed the Golden Ears test, I am young (under 25) and my hearing is perfectly fine. Whilst I cannot hear any difference between sources, I do agree headphones can vary wildly in quality and sound properties.
This is me whenever I read people arguing about DAPs, DACs, amps and cables. There is no electrically measurable difference, no difference that can be detected through blind testing. Yes I see no problem in discussing the various colourations tube amps can provide, but discussing solid state electronics which theoretically, when properly designed, should be 100% utterly, completely transparent is a waste of mental effort. Any differences are purely psychological. I rest my case.
Edit: I would also like to add that I passed the Golden Ears test, I am young (under 25) and my hearing is perfectly fine. Whilst I cannot hear any difference between sources, I do agree headphones can vary wildly in quality and sound properties.
Could we please not have a graph worshippers sit in. The threads been quite cordial and informative up until now. If the local crew of graph worshippers or iBassoites or NwAvGuY nymphs intend to turn this thread into a battlefield then I'll just message a MOD an have any offending posts pruned an be done with it. Debate in here is acceptable. Being condescending is not though. If certain people can't accept someone else's view then move along to another subject of discussion that's less likely to make you feel offended. I usually do this an I'm positive others can too.