How does this penon tail sound with the 10th ?i'm getting one, I know how it sounds like.
They're really good...
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Xinlisupreme
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Total agreement with you, plus with iBasso DX320 Edition X are sublime!The Vocal Cable and EST50 is amazing.
RumbleWeed
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I really cannot remember who it is but someone from the inner circle who had early access to it said they pair beautifullyHow does this penon tail sound with the 10th ?
lucanato
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What does it mean?!?Volume button and play/pause in-one button and three independent (Vol±, Play/Pause) button compatible design, easy to listen to music control; With PCM and DSD light effect.
And which is the power?
No need of app?
And so no filters like nooversampling?
What do you mean by "surprisingly good with the Ragnar"?The connectors are really well made. As far as I can tell, even the ones on their “entry level” Lily series are made the same way, only without the bling. And I say “entry level” because while not quite TOTL, they are better than Wagnus would have you think - currently digging the Snow Crystal Lily which is surprisingly good with the Ragnar.
Back to Penon, Floating Sheep exposes a little more grain in the 10th than I would like, but Snow Crystal Lily is smoother and I enjoy the 10th very much with it.
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Not the most technical or resolving cable but makes for smoother warmer mids with better timbre and a good amount of dimensionality. The strong technicals are still there, just less in your face. I do like its mids to begin with, although with some cable pairings they can be a bit lean. Not here though.What do you mean by "surprisingly good with the Ragnar"?
Redcarmoose
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Its Dual CS43131. As for the power out here you go, from Cirrus Logic. Cheers!What does it mean?!?
And which is the power?
No need of app?
And so no filters like nooversampling?
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Hi!
I see that you have the Penon 10th. It´s an iem that caught my attention, but i have small ears and because of that I have to be careful with iem selection.
I mainly listen to iem's on the go, so a big iem is uncomfortable to use, keeps falling and sometimes it hearts.
How big is the Penon 10th? Bigger than Dunu Sa6? Bigger that Campfire Andromeda?
Thanks.
I don’t have those to compare with but perhaps someone else will. Been some time since I tried the Andro but I doubt the 10th is smaller.
Have you considered the Vortex?
Compact bliss = Vortex + Venture Electronics Vita cable + a small purist DAP like Dethonray DTR1+. Or maybe even that new Tail, if it isn’t doesn’t turn out to be too much of a drain on one’s phone battery.
Those orange tips taunt me…
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Penon posted their output on their website
Output performance
3.5mm output(low gain) 32Ω @1kHz, connect with PC
Impedance: 32Ω @1kHz
Output level: minimum: 900mV, 25.3mW; typical: 1000mV, 31.25mW; maximum: 1200mV, 45mW
Frequency response: 20-20kHz
THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -100dB, maximum -95dB
SNR: minimum 110dB, typical 120dB, maximum 130dB
DNR: minimum 110dB, typical 120dB, maximum 130dB
Crosstalk: minimum -65dB, typical -60dB, maximum -55dB
3.5mm output(high gain) 600Ω @1kHz, connect with PC
Impedance: 600Ω @1kHz
Output level: minimum: 1800mV, 5.4mW; typical: 2000mV, 6.67mW; maximum: 2200mV, 8.07mW
Frequency response: 20-20kHz
THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -100dB, maximum -95dB
SNR: minimum 115dB, typical 125dB, maximum 135dB
DNR: minimum 115dB, typical 125dB, maximum 135dB
Crosstalk: minimum -95dB, typical -85dB, maximum -75dB
4.4mm balanced output(low gain) 32Ω @1kHz, connect with PC
Impedance: 32Ω @1kHz
Output level: minimum: 1800mV, 101.25mW; typical: 2000mV, 125mW; maximum: 2200mV, 151.25mW
Frequency response: 20-20kHz
THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -103dB, maximum -100dB
SNR: minimum 120dB, typical 125dB, maximum 130dB
DNR: minimum 120dB, typical 125dB, maximum 130dB
Crosstalk: minimum -110dB, typical -105dB, maximum -100dB
4.4mm balanced output(high gain) 600Ω @1kHz, connect with PC
Impedance: 600Ω @1kHz
Output level: minimum: 3800mV, 24.07mW; typical: 4000mV, 26.67mW; maximum: 4200mV, 29.4mW
Frequency response: 20-20kHz
THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -103dB, maximum -100dB
SNR: minimum 125dB, typical 130dB, maximum 135dB
DNR: minimum 125dB, typical 130dB, maximum 135dB
Crosstalk: minimum -140dB, typical -135dB, maximum -130dB
Output performance
3.5mm output(low gain) 32Ω @1kHz, connect with PC
Impedance: 32Ω @1kHz
Output level: minimum: 900mV, 25.3mW; typical: 1000mV, 31.25mW; maximum: 1200mV, 45mW
Frequency response: 20-20kHz
THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -100dB, maximum -95dB
SNR: minimum 110dB, typical 120dB, maximum 130dB
DNR: minimum 110dB, typical 120dB, maximum 130dB
Crosstalk: minimum -65dB, typical -60dB, maximum -55dB
3.5mm output(high gain) 600Ω @1kHz, connect with PC
Impedance: 600Ω @1kHz
Output level: minimum: 1800mV, 5.4mW; typical: 2000mV, 6.67mW; maximum: 2200mV, 8.07mW
Frequency response: 20-20kHz
THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -100dB, maximum -95dB
SNR: minimum 115dB, typical 125dB, maximum 135dB
DNR: minimum 115dB, typical 125dB, maximum 135dB
Crosstalk: minimum -95dB, typical -85dB, maximum -75dB
4.4mm balanced output(low gain) 32Ω @1kHz, connect with PC
Impedance: 32Ω @1kHz
Output level: minimum: 1800mV, 101.25mW; typical: 2000mV, 125mW; maximum: 2200mV, 151.25mW
Frequency response: 20-20kHz
THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -103dB, maximum -100dB
SNR: minimum 120dB, typical 125dB, maximum 130dB
DNR: minimum 120dB, typical 125dB, maximum 130dB
Crosstalk: minimum -110dB, typical -105dB, maximum -100dB
4.4mm balanced output(high gain) 600Ω @1kHz, connect with PC
Impedance: 600Ω @1kHz
Output level: minimum: 3800mV, 24.07mW; typical: 4000mV, 26.67mW; maximum: 4200mV, 29.4mW
Frequency response: 20-20kHz
THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -103dB, maximum -100dB
SNR: minimum 125dB, typical 130dB, maximum 135dB
DNR: minimum 125dB, typical 130dB, maximum 135dB
Crosstalk: minimum -140dB, typical -135dB, maximum -130dB
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RumbleWeed
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Really like the 0.5db soft ramp volume steps, can anyone say if its indipendant or simply controlling source volume?Its Dual CS43131. As for the power out here you go, from Cirrus Logic. Cheers!
Seems to have enough power, i wonder how this will compare to the LG V50's ESS 32-Bit Quad DAC/Amp?
I dont have any or owned any Cyrus Logic DAC's other than in my iMac & MacBook Pro if im not mistaken? If i understand correctly they are in the middle if the Clinicle ESS Sabre & Warm AKM?
I am pretty intrested in this Penon DAC i saw a photo somewhere of the leather cases for the 10th AE and the liitle rectangle one looks like a DAP/DAC Case, is it actually for the Tail DAC?
RumbleWeed
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Just purchased this cable for when my 10th AE arives tomorrow but with fixed end not modular and blue resin custom hardware. Would have liked the conveniance of a modular cable but have had some really bad experiances with modular cables sound cutting in & out and accidental disconnections! When your paying over £100 for a cable the last thing you want is for it to start playing up after a couple of months!
It has some great reviews saying its got a sub-bass boost & thick notes weight but still great detail & soundstage which is what i wanted so it will synagize?
If not im sure it will work with one of my iiem's!
It has some great reviews saying its got a sub-bass boost & thick notes weight but still great detail & soundstage which is what i wanted so it will synagize?
If not im sure it will work with one of my iiem's!
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BrokenHill
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I have that. I was testing it for the Impact, and it's not bad, but I couldn't get what I wanted. The Volt did much better and it doesn't get along much with the shirokawa, perhaps for my taste it gives too much weight to the notes, but if that's your preference, it will be to your liking. In the end I have the code 23 in the Impact, the Shirokawa in the Volt, the Solar in the Moonlight (now in the Serial) the Mix in the FAN2, the Wolfram in the Vortex... and this... in a drawer, But I do have more tests pending.Just purchased this cable for when my 10th AE arives tomorrow but with fixed end not modular and blue resin custom hardware. Would have liked the conveniance of a modular cable but have had some really bad experiances with modular cables sound cutting in & out and accidental disconnections! When your paying over £100 for a cable the last thing you want is for it to start playing up after a couple of months!
It has some great reviews saying its got a sub-bass boost & thick notes weight but still great detail & soundstage which is what i wanted so it will synagize?
If not im sure it will work with one of my iiem's!
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Penon tail vs fiio ka3/ka5/btr7, anyone can please comment on that?