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May 31, 2023 at 7:25 AM Post #9,526 of 14,143
i'm getting one, I know how it sounds like.
They're really good...
How does this penon tail sound with the 10th ?
 
May 31, 2023 at 8:01 AM Post #9,527 of 14,143
May 31, 2023 at 10:16 AM Post #9,529 of 14,143
How does this penon tail sound with the 10th ?
I really cannot remember who it is but someone from the inner circle who had early access to it said they pair beautifully👍
 
May 31, 2023 at 12:35 PM Post #9,531 of 14,143
The connectors are really well made. As far as I can tell, even the ones on their “entry level” Lily series are made the same way, only without the bling. And I say “entry level” because while not quite TOTL, they are better than Wagnus would have you think - currently digging the Snow Crystal Lily which is surprisingly good with the Ragnar.

Back to Penon, Floating Sheep exposes a little more grain in the 10th than I would like, but Snow Crystal Lily is smoother and I enjoy the 10th very much with it.
What do you mean by "surprisingly good with the Ragnar"?
 
May 31, 2023 at 3:13 PM Post #9,532 of 14,143
What do you mean by "surprisingly good with the Ragnar"?
Not the most technical or resolving cable but makes for smoother warmer mids with better timbre and a good amount of dimensionality. The strong technicals are still there, just less in your face. I do like its mids to begin with, although with some cable pairings they can be a bit lean. Not here though.
 
May 31, 2023 at 3:34 PM Post #9,533 of 14,143
What does it mean?!?
And which is the power?
No need of app?
And so no filters like nooversampling?
Its Dual CS43131. As for the power out here you go, from Cirrus Logic. Cheers!
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May 31, 2023 at 3:59 PM Post #9,534 of 14,143
Hi!
I see that you have the Penon 10th. It´s an iem that caught my attention, but i have small ears and because of that I have to be careful with iem selection.
I mainly listen to iem's on the go, so a big iem is uncomfortable to use, keeps falling and sometimes it hearts.
How big is the Penon 10th? Bigger than Dunu Sa6? Bigger that Campfire Andromeda?
Thanks.

I don’t have those to compare with but perhaps someone else will. Been some time since I tried the Andro but I doubt the 10th is smaller.

Have you considered the Vortex?
Compact bliss = Vortex + Venture Electronics Vita cable + a small purist DAP like Dethonray DTR1+. Or maybe even that new Tail, if it isn’t doesn’t turn out to be too much of a drain on one’s phone battery.

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Those orange tips taunt me…
 
May 31, 2023 at 11:35 PM Post #9,535 of 14,143
Penon posted their output on their website

Output performance

3.5mm output(low gain)
32Ω @1kHz, connect with PC

Impedance: 32Ω @1kHz

Output level: minimum: 900mV, 25.3mW; typical: 1000mV, 31.25mW; maximum: 1200mV, 45mW

Frequency response: 20-20kHz

THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -100dB, maximum -95dB

SNR: minimum 110dB, typical 120dB, maximum 130dB

DNR: minimum 110dB, typical 120dB, maximum 130dB

Crosstalk: minimum -65dB, typical -60dB, maximum -55dB



3.5mm output(high gain) 600Ω @1kHz, connect with PC

Impedance: 600Ω @1kHz

Output level: minimum: 1800mV, 5.4mW; typical: 2000mV, 6.67mW; maximum: 2200mV, 8.07mW

Frequency response: 20-20kHz

THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -100dB, maximum -95dB

SNR: minimum 115dB, typical 125dB, maximum 135dB

DNR: minimum 115dB, typical 125dB, maximum 135dB

Crosstalk: minimum -95dB, typical -85dB, maximum -75dB



4.4mm balanced output(low gain) 32Ω @1kHz, connect with PC

Impedance: 32Ω @1kHz

Output level: minimum: 1800mV, 101.25mW; typical: 2000mV, 125mW; maximum: 2200mV, 151.25mW

Frequency response: 20-20kHz

THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -103dB, maximum -100dB

SNR: minimum 120dB, typical 125dB, maximum 130dB

DNR: minimum 120dB, typical 125dB, maximum 130dB

Crosstalk: minimum -110dB, typical -105dB, maximum -100dB



4.4mm balanced output(high gain) 600Ω @1kHz, connect with PC

Impedance: 600Ω @1kHz

Output level: minimum: 3800mV, 24.07mW; typical: 4000mV, 26.67mW; maximum: 4200mV, 29.4mW

Frequency response: 20-20kHz

THD+N: minimum -105dB, typical -103dB, maximum -100dB

SNR: minimum 125dB, typical 130dB, maximum 135dB

DNR: minimum 125dB, typical 130dB, maximum 135dB

Crosstalk: minimum -140dB, typical -135dB, maximum -130dB
 
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Jun 1, 2023 at 12:55 AM Post #9,536 of 14,143
Jun 1, 2023 at 6:36 AM Post #9,537 of 14,143
Its Dual CS43131. As for the power out here you go, from Cirrus Logic. Cheers!
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Really like the 0.5db soft ramp volume steps, can anyone say if its indipendant or simply controlling source volume?
Seems to have enough power, i wonder how this will compare to the LG V50's ESS 32-Bit Quad DAC/Amp?
I dont have any or owned any Cyrus Logic DAC's other than in my iMac & MacBook Pro if im not mistaken? If i understand correctly they are in the middle if the Clinicle ESS Sabre & Warm AKM?
I am pretty intrested in this Penon DAC i saw a photo somewhere of the leather cases for the 10th AE and the liitle rectangle one looks like a DAP/DAC Case, is it actually for the Tail DAC?
 
Jun 1, 2023 at 7:02 AM Post #9,538 of 14,143
Just purchased this cable for when my 10th AE arives tomorrow but with fixed end not modular and blue resin custom hardware. Would have liked the conveniance of a modular cable but have had some really bad experiances with modular cables sound cutting in & out and accidental disconnections! When your paying over £100 for a cable the last thing you want is for it to start playing up after a couple of months!
It has some great reviews saying its got a sub-bass boost & thick notes weight but still great detail & soundstage which is what i wanted so 🤞 it will synagize?
If not im sure it will work with one of my iiem's!
 

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Jun 1, 2023 at 7:58 AM Post #9,539 of 14,143
Just purchased this cable for when my 10th AE arives tomorrow but with fixed end not modular and blue resin custom hardware. Would have liked the conveniance of a modular cable but have had some really bad experiances with modular cables sound cutting in & out and accidental disconnections! When your paying over £100 for a cable the last thing you want is for it to start playing up after a couple of months!
It has some great reviews saying its got a sub-bass boost & thick notes weight but still great detail & soundstage which is what i wanted so 🤞 it will synagize?
If not im sure it will work with one of my iiem's!
I have that. I was testing it for the Impact, and it's not bad, but I couldn't get what I wanted. The Volt did much better and it doesn't get along much with the shirokawa, perhaps for my taste it gives too much weight to the notes, but if that's your preference, it will be to your liking. In the end I have the code 23 in the Impact, the Shirokawa in the Volt, the Solar in the Moonlight (now in the Serial) the Mix in the FAN2, the Wolfram in the Vortex... and this... in a drawer, But I do have more tests pending.

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