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May 10, 2023 at 1:50 AM Post #8,866 of 13,712
Credit Card info is not the only issue. All the information in our accounts may be vulnerable as well. I tried to change my login password, which failed and now I have no access to my account. Has anyone had difficulty accessing their accounts?

I received a response from Penon and they are investigating the issue. They have also reset my password and I can log in. (the password issue could have been my error).
There are 2 choices for purchase on the webpage. The 1st says credit/debit processed by PayPal and the 2nd says PayPal express. It seems like choice 1 was the problem. Hopefully everyone was able to notice the unauthorized charges and cancel their cards. Sorry for the interruptions, now back to listening...
I have had the same response. The problem is not only that they need to fix it, but I would like to know if any personal data has been exposed. I would not change the password now directly. If they have accessed the databases, they may have taken encrypted password data. If they've phished forms, as it seems, you may be directly revealing your current password to them.
 
May 10, 2023 at 2:13 AM Post #8,867 of 13,712
Grrrr............END GAME!
Humbly suggest Sony WM1Z and Penon Audio Volt!
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May 10, 2023 at 4:08 AM Post #8,868 of 13,712
I received a response from Penon and they are investigating the issue. They have also reset my password and I can log in. (the password issue could have been my error).
There are 2 choices for purchase on the webpage. The 1st says credit/debit processed by PayPal and the 2nd says PayPal express. It seems like choice 1 was the problem. Hopefully everyone was able to notice the unauthorized charges and cancel their cards. Sorry for the interruptions, now back to listening...
I've cancelled my card and getting a new one. It's not good and people will have second thoughts about transactions with Penon. On their side they must make it totally clear that they have solved the problem and make a statement on this thread. We all love Penon, but we have to be clear it's safe to buy stuff.
 
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May 10, 2023 at 4:28 AM Post #8,869 of 13,712
In the same price range none. In the USD.899 bracket there is, but less holographic clarity. It's like there's a veil placed In front of the sound field. Serial's simply clearer despite it's analogue tuning.

On the other hand, the Globes are simply brighter, a tad energetic, faster and a larger scale of imaging. Imaging presentation is near field. Folks that think and prefer a brighter tuning will prefer this set over the Globe.
Common denominator on all Penon sets, across the range has always been the mids, those epic mids. Case in point below. Serial is so much realistic with an Astounding Bass! Whilst the Globes - an excellent mid bass, lush neutral mids and sparkly, spritely detailed top end.
Serial - classic vintage, Globes - fresh, modern. Pick your poison folks...
:beerchug:


Personally I don’t find the Globe that bright as it’s syrupy bass-end particularly mid-bass is quite prominent, which in the end balanced out some of that treble energy.

Serial drivers speed aren’t too shabby actually and Globe not that speedy either. Both have about the same capability in details retrieval, actually the Serial might have a slight edge to me being slightly more audible due to its flatter tuning approach. Clarity are about par, however the BAs does sound a tad more refine, more of a character rather than tuning as Vortex demonstrated with just a single driver, it can deliver more.

When comes to stage size and treble air, Globe takes the cake! Two very different tuning to cater to different preferences! What’s not to like? :)

Nice closing!

Grrrr............END GAME!
Humbly suggest Sony WM1Z and Penon Audio Volt!
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Someone finally caved! Welcome to the fold! :)

Grrr… sleepless night begins…
 
May 10, 2023 at 4:51 AM Post #8,870 of 13,712
First impressions are really this is exactly my sound. I mean I really like the ISN50 and in some ways (with the right cable) it’s more vivid almost. But here with the Volt we are gifted with an IEM that’s well rounded, so much so that it plays (somehow) middle of the road with any genre I ask. Just enough slam and bass for EDM, yet correct timbre for Orchestra playback? Also strangely enough it’s not source dependent at all. Meaning it has the ability to playback both my midcentric Sony 1A well showing its character, then adapts to the V shaped Sony 1Z, with both extremes of playback seemingly correct? Also while the Totem add-on is a noticeable difference, maybe seeing all those Volts garnishing Totems over the years got me too hyped-up for the union, where I find the Volt included cable really really good? But I’ve only had the Volt for 2 hours, so what do I know?
Personally I don’t find the Globe that bright as it’s syrupy bass-end particularly mid-bass is quite prominent, which in the end balanced out some of that treble energy.

Serial drivers speed aren’t too shabby actually and Globe not that speedy either. Both have about the same capability in details retrieval, actually the Serial might have a slight edge to me being slightly more audible due to its flatter tuning approach. Clarity are about par, however the BAs does sound a tad more refine, more of a character rather than tuning as Vortex demonstrated with just a single driver, it can deliver more.

When comes to stage size and treble air, Globe takes the cake! Two very different tuning to cater to different preferences! What’s not to like? :)

Nice closing!


Someone finally caved! Welcome to the fold! :)

Grrr… sleepless night begins…
The Volt produces the style of bass I’m into, where with the IER-Z1R I would always use the Sony 1A instead of the Sony 1Z due to the (1A) offering a more withdrawn bass. With the Volt the bass is balanced, while still being DD, yet not overbearing in the least, it is still heavy enough when needed and expanded out into the stage to provide those thrills, yet never crossing over into the midrange?
 
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May 10, 2023 at 5:12 AM Post #8,871 of 13,712
Penon Fan 2 in the house. Just burned in the 2 x 6mm dynamics overnight. They couldn't any be more different to the OG Fan. My usual Spiral Dots and even the XL Penon Oranges did not do the Job, not a deep enough insertion to get a good bass response. Solution at hand, XL Spinfit CP100s. The thinner and more compliant Silicone gets quite a deep insertion. Definitely slightly mid-centric sound. More neutral than expected. Bass a good couple of rows back compared to the 'rich and delicious' Penon Serial. Nevertheless still a bit of Penon 'magic'. The OS133 cable is good and pairs well. The Knowles treble is very good and the Sonion mids stand out. Bass is good but slightly recessed relative the mids. Very much a vocal orientated IEM (unless the bass opens up more) and quite musical. Indian Classical as an example



Sorry a bit long but shows the Fan 2 capabilities.


Another well tuned, but different, set from Penon.....suited to the classical music of many cultures.
 
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May 10, 2023 at 5:13 AM Post #8,872 of 13,712
I got another reply from Penon

I am sorry for any inconvenience caused you and thanks for your feedback ,we have contacted both PayPal and our website service provider to check this issue now , it should be resolved very soon, you choose “PayPal Express Checkout” payment method when you checkout, then there is no issue .
Any questions,pls feel free to contact us .
Best regards

again it feels like corresponding with some chatbot because nobody is signing this email so there is some unknown person at their company responding
to emails in a matter like : we don't feel responsible but we say sorry and contacted other parties that might resolve the problem and in the meantime don't use 'steal my info' option just choose the other one

IMHO it would be much better PR if they will say they feel or are responsible, remove this dangerous form from checkout, fix/reenable phone number and sign a letter

not to mention posting a big red warning on main page that they are under attack and under no circumstances client shall use this Option 1 which will lead to
unauthorized charges;

you go to Penon site and you got no warning at all, they have newsletter but didn't use that channel to warn customers about reported issue

so knowing your clients might get troubles, loose money because of your fault and doing nothing to warn is like helping crooks in stealing
 
May 10, 2023 at 5:20 AM Post #8,873 of 13,712
I received the Impact from Penon a few days ago and I've been listening to it for the last couple days. So far it has been a enjoyable journey, so I decided to leave my impressions here.

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The presentation is quite simple with a small cardboard box with a leather case, a small leather case with accessories, the stock Penon Obsidian cable with modular plugs and the Impacts. That’s it. Nothing fancy but of very good quality. The unboxing experience is not the greatest but I'm starting to prefer this kind of stuff since it is better to pack up my gear and obviously to hide from my wife.😅😂 The build of the custom-fit shell is impeccable. The design is very simple yet beautiful in my opinion. I think looks handsome to be able to see the internals of the Impact.

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Regarding sound impressions, I’m very surprised with the dynamics and the bass impact. I think it is fantastic for BA bass, very fast and with great texture. It has more quantity and quality than Traillii. I think even for those who listen to a lot of EDM (not my case), you will not be disappointed. It doesn’t have the slam or slow decay of a DD, but it is very pleasant. I also like the timbre and tonality of the Impact.

Another great aspect of the Impact is the midrange, especially when using the stock cable. Vocals sound immense and rich. I also bought the Totem cable which still provides a great midrange, but it expands the soundstage with fantastic imaging and separation. The all sound just becomes more vivid, more dimensional and more spacious. Probably the Traillii has a wider and ethereal soundstage, but nothing to complain here. I always have this idea that when the soundstage is too wide, it could sound unnatural. Not the case with Impact and Traillii though.

The Impact is a superbly resolving IEM, so it’s not a surprise the treble is detailed. It just has the right amount of sparkle, never harsh. Its tastefully done and it is very smooth for it’s given musical presentation. Once again, I realized the Totem cable expands the treble extension and it adds more sparkle to the mix.

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I would also like to mention the Impact scales with sources, and it could change significantly with cables. The stock cable is mid centric and transforms the Impact into a vocals specialist. The Totem cable is a pleasant surprise. It just enhances the dynamics of the Impact with better bass texture, better resolution and a more spacious soundstage. The Liquid Links Venom improves even more the midrange details with better bass impact. The Brise Yatono gives the widest of holographic soundstage. The PWAudio 1950 (shielding) transforms the impact into an analog set with extraordinary details retrieval.

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I have no problems in recommending the Impact. It’s a fantastic IEM with his own merits that can compete with other TOTL at a more affordable price. In my opinion the Impact is a set with a very balanced sound signature that is superb for all kind of music genres. Not boring by any means. The tuning is very versatile with great layering, excellent resolution and a holographic presentation. Live music sounds awesome. Classical sounds sublime. Even prog rock and metal genres sound amazing due to the speed and fast decay of the Sonion BA and the clean and smooth treble of the 4 EST. However, being the Impact a kind of midrange specialist, it’s no surprise how special it sounds with vocals. It’s mesmerizing! Hannah Reid from London Grammar or Susanne Sundfør just sound immense! Great job by Penon.

PXL_20230510_074152556.PORTRAIT.ORIGINAL~2.jpg
 
May 10, 2023 at 5:22 AM Post #8,874 of 13,712
Penon Fan 2 in the house. Just burned in the 2 x 6mm dynamics overnight. They couldn't any be more different to the OG Fan. My usual Spiral Dots and even the XL Penon Oranges did not do the Job, not a deep enough insertion to get a good bass response. Solution at hand, XL Spinfit CP100s. The thinner and more compliant Silicone gets quite a deep insertion. Definitely slightly mid-centric sound. More neutral than expected. Bass a good couple of rows back compared to the 'rich and delicious' Penon Serial. Nevertheless still a bit of Penon 'magic'. The OS133 cable is good and pairs well. The Knowles treble is very good and the Sonion mids stand out. Bass is good but slightly recessed relative the mids. Very much a vocal orientated IEM (unless the bass opens up more) and quite musical. Indian Classical as an example
Matches my first impressions of the Fan2, but months later the bass seems to have developed. It’s still no basshead IEM, but there is a depth and richness to the bass that just wasn’t there before.
 
May 10, 2023 at 5:22 AM Post #8,875 of 13,712
Penon Fan 2 in the house. Just burned in the 2 x 6mm dynamics overnight. They couldn't any be more different to the OG Fan. My usual Spiral Dots and even the XL Penon Oranges did not do the Job, not a deep enough insertion to get a good bass response. Solution at hand, XL Spinfit CP100s. The thinner and more compliant Silicone gets quite a deep insertion. Definitely slightly mid-centric sound. More neutral than expected. Bass a good couple of rows back compared to the 'rich and delicious' Penon Serial. Nevertheless still a bit of Penon 'magic'. The OS133 cable is good and pairs well. The Knowles treble is very good and the Sonion mids stand out. Bass is good but slightly recessed relative the mids. Very much a vocal orientated IEM (unless the bass opens up more) and quite musical. Indian Classical as an example




Another well tuned, but different, set from Penon.....suited to the classical music of many cultures.

The Fan 1 and Fan 2 couldn’t be more different, yet they share a midrange together, I think? Where there was a warming-up period for me with the Fan 2, Fan 1 was certainly accessible right away. In a strange way the two almost complement each other in replay. Yet for me the surprise was just how good the Fan 1 was, as it seemed to fly under the radar for so long and by so many that it didn’t get the respect it deserved right off? Where the Fan 2 was kinda a high profile release........at least that’s how I view the two. But of course I wasn’t into Penon when the Fan 1 was released, it may have received accolades? But upon arriving (to me) it was an unknown? Lol

The thing is the Fan 2 will change dramatically upon burn-in, finding the right tips and cables.....to go with it. The Fan 2 was a little fussy (not temperamental) but slightly fussy to unlock its charms. That’s why I’m always surprised when people have absolute luck with them straight out of the gate?
 
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May 10, 2023 at 5:27 AM Post #8,877 of 13,712
The unboxing experience is not the greatest but I'm starting to prefer this kind of stuff since it is better to pack up my gear and obviously to hide from my wife.😅😂
Too funny. Great impressions! Such perfect descriptions! Cheers!
 
May 10, 2023 at 5:28 AM Post #8,878 of 13,712
I received the Impact from Penon a few days ago and I've been listening to it for the last couple days. So far it has been a enjoyable journey, so I decided to leave my impressions here.



The presentation is quite simple with a small cardboard box with a leather case, a small leather case with accessories, the stock Penon Obsidian cable with modular plugs and the Impacts. That’s it. Nothing fancy but of very good quality. The unboxing experience is not the greatest but I'm starting to prefer this kind of stuff since it is better to pack up my gear and obviously to hide from my wife.😅😂 The build of the custom-fit shell is impeccable. The design is very simple yet beautiful in my opinion. I think looks handsome to be able to see the internals of the Impact.



Regarding sound impressions, I’m very surprised with the dynamics and the bass impact. I think it is fantastic for BA bass, very fast and with great texture. It has more quantity and quality than Traillii. I think even for those who listen to a lot of EDM (not my case), you will not be disappointed. It doesn’t have the slam or slow decay of a DD, but it is very pleasant. I also like the timbre and tonality of the Impact.

Another great aspect of the Impact is the midrange, especially when using the stock cable. Vocals sound immense and rich. I also bought the Totem cable which still provides a great midrange, but it expands the soundstage with fantastic imaging and separation. The all sound just becomes more vivid, more dimensional and more spacious. Probably the Traillii has a wider and ethereal soundstage, but nothing to complain here. I always have this idea that when the soundstage is too wide, it could sound unnatural. Not the case with Impact and Traillii though.

The Impact is a superbly resolving IEM, so it’s not a surprise the treble is detailed. It just has the right amount of sparkle, never harsh. Its tastefully done and it is very smooth for it’s given musical presentation. Once again, I realized the Totem cable expands the treble extension and it adds more sparkle to the mix.



I would also like to mention the Impact scales with sources, and it could change significantly with cables. The stock cable is mid centric and transforms the Impact into a vocals specialist. The Totem cable is a pleasant surprise. It just enhances the dynamics of the Impact with better bass texture, better resolution and a more spacious soundstage. The Liquid Links Venom improves even more the midrange details with better bass impact. The Brise Yatono gives the widest of holographic soundstage. The PWAudio 1950 (shielding) transforms the impact into an analog set with extraordinary details retrieval.



I have no problems in recommending the Impact. It’s a fantastic IEM with his own merits that can compete with other TOTL at a more affordable price. In my opinion the Impact is a set with a very balanced sound signature that is superb for all kind of music genres. Not boring by any means. The tuning is very versatile with great layering, excellent resolution and a holographic presentation. Live music sounds awesome. Classical sounds sublime. Even prog rock and metal genres sound amazing due to the speed and fast decay of the Sonion BA and the clean and smooth treble of the 4 EST. However, being the Impact a kind of midrange specialist, it’s no surprise how special it sounds with vocals. It’s mesmerizing! Hannah Reid from London Grammar or Susanne Sundfør just sound immense! Great job by Penon.

Somehow the CIEM looks more of the serious deal here? My gosh, that may just be one of the most beautiful CIEMs I’ve ever seen?
 
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May 10, 2023 at 5:41 AM Post #8,879 of 13,712
you go to Penon site and you got no warning at all, they have newsletter but didn't use that channel to warn customers about reported issue

so knowing your clients might get troubles, loose money because of your fault and doing nothing to warn is like helping crooks in stealing
Well, they have put it on one of those giant banners that they like so much. Of course I think they should give more explanations.
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May 10, 2023 at 5:47 AM Post #8,880 of 13,712
I received the Impact from Penon a few days ago and I've been listening to it for the last couple days. So far it has been a enjoyable journey, so I decided to leave my impressions here.

PXL_20230510_073029410.PORTRAIT.jpg

The presentation is quite simple with a small cardboard box with a leather case, a small leather case with accessories, the stock Penon Obsidian cable with modular plugs and the Impacts. That’s it. Nothing fancy but of very good quality. The unboxing experience is not the greatest but I'm starting to prefer this kind of stuff since it is better to pack up my gear and obviously to hide from my wife.😅😂 The build of the custom-fit shell is impeccable. The design is very simple yet beautiful in my opinion. I think looks handsome to be able to see the internals of the Impact.

PXL_20230510_073201628.PORTRAIT~2.jpg

Regarding sound impressions, I’m very surprised with the dynamics and the bass impact. I think it is fantastic for BA bass, very fast and with great texture. It has more quantity and quality than Traillii. I think even for those who listen to a lot of EDM (not my case), you will not be disappointed. It doesn’t have the slam or slow decay of a DD, but it is very pleasant. I also like the timbre and tonality of the Impact.

Another great aspect of the Impact is the midrange, especially when using the stock cable. Vocals sound immense and rich. I also bought the Totem cable which still provides a great midrange, but it expands the soundstage with fantastic imaging and separation. The all sound just becomes more vivid, more dimensional and more spacious. Probably the Traillii has a wider and ethereal soundstage, but nothing to complain here. I always have this idea that when the soundstage is too wide, it could sound unnatural. Not the case with Impact and Traillii though.

The Impact is a superbly resolving IEM, so it’s not a surprise the treble is detailed. It just has the right amount of sparkle, never harsh. Its tastefully done and it is very smooth for it’s given musical presentation. Once again, I realized the Totem cable expands the treble extension and it adds more sparkle to the mix.

PXL_20230510_074107847.PORTRAIT~2.jpg

I would also like to mention the Impact scales with sources, and it could change significantly with cables. The stock cable is mid centric and transforms the Impact into a vocals specialist. The Totem cable is a pleasant surprise. It just enhances the dynamics of the Impact with better bass texture, better resolution and a more spacious soundstage. The Liquid Links Venom improves even more the midrange details with better bass impact. The Brise Yatono gives the widest of holographic soundstage. The PWAudio 1950 (shielding) transforms the impact into an analog set with extraordinary details retrieval.

PXL_20230510_074804573.PORTRAIT.ORIGINAL~2.jpg

I have no problems in recommending the Impact. It’s a fantastic IEM with his own merits that can compete with other TOTL at a more affordable price. In my opinion the Impact is a set with a very balanced sound signature that is superb for all kind of music genres. Not boring by any means. The tuning is very versatile with great layering, excellent resolution and a holographic presentation. Live music sounds awesome. Classical sounds sublime. Even prog rock and metal genres sound amazing due to the speed and fast decay of the Sonion BA and the clean and smooth treble of the 4 EST. However, being the Impact a kind of midrange specialist, it’s no surprise how special it sounds with vocals. It’s mesmerizing! Hannah Reid from London Grammar or Susanne Sundfør just sound immense! Great job by Penon.

PXL_20230510_074152556.PORTRAIT.ORIGINAL~2.jpg
Great review. You could have perfectly added it to the official ones. I agree with you on everything. I haven't had the chance to try as many high-end cables as you, but in the end I left it with code 23, which is the one that has worked best for me in terms of versatility for all genres. Expands the stage, improves textures, at the cost of moving the vocals away a bit.
 

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