Jun 16, 2023 at 5:08 PM Post #9,961 of 16,346
Chin sliders, the unsung heroes of cable ergonomics. All cables should have them, especially the heavy ones. I recently bought a "flagship" NiceHCK called DragonScale and it's an absolute garden hose. And no chin slider!? What!? I had to repurpose a cable tie so I could use it! Did sound brilliant though.

I was curious about the DragonScale but the AE reviews weren’t very helpful and I didn’t find much here. I’d be interested any impressions you can give about its general sound profile or synergies, while I literally try to wrap my head around the Bass (sound impressions to come once I get them to stay put).
 
Jun 16, 2023 at 7:32 PM Post #9,962 of 16,346
How do you guys use the chin slider anyway? (Despite its name). Do you have a pic where you're using it?
 
Jun 16, 2023 at 7:42 PM Post #9,963 of 16,346
How do you guys use the chin slider anyway? (Despite its name). Do you have a pic where you're using it?
You kind of need a chin slider for cables without ear hooks I find.
 
Jun 16, 2023 at 7:55 PM Post #9,964 of 16,346
I was curious about the DragonScale but the AE reviews weren’t very helpful and I didn’t find much here. I’d be interested any impressions you can give about its general sound profile or synergies, while I literally try to wrap my head around the Bass (sound impressions to come once I get them to stay p
I really love the sound...it's phenomenal, deep bass, wide stage and sparkling highs. The ergos on the other hand...
You kind of need a chin slider for cables without ear hooks I find.
Yes, I agree, though I think they're sort of necessary always. They just help keep the IEM in place. Here's the idea:
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Jun 16, 2023 at 8:21 PM Post #9,965 of 16,346
I really love the sound...it's phenomenal, deep bass, wide stage and sparkling highs. The ergos on the other hand...

Yes, I agree, though I think they're sort of necessary always. They just help keep the IEM in place. Here's the idea:
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Thank you for the pic 👍
 
Jun 16, 2023 at 10:54 PM Post #9,966 of 16,346
So this thicc boi showed up.

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With the Totem (and Volt) for comparison. Yes, thiccer than the Totem.

Surprised there doesn’t seem to have been much comment on the ergonomics of the Bass cable yet. I usually am down for a good chonky cable but I think this may be approaching my limits of chonkiness. And I usually don’t like ear guides (and sometimes even specifically request for my cables to be made without) but here is one cable where I concede that ear guides may have been useful, at least until the cable develops some memory of its own. Until then, I’m using the chin slider to keep it in place. Another thing I never use on cables. Usually I don’t care if the thing has a functioning chin slider and if it was missing altogether, I might not even notice. But here I am using a chin slider for the first time in my life and I can confirm that it does as it’s told.

Oh dear that’s a real chonker! Compared to Flow?
 
Jun 17, 2023 at 12:21 AM Post #9,967 of 16,346
I ended up ordering an SR7, so will compare with the Neo 5 when they both arrive!
My First Sound Rhyme. I'm stoked!
I have SR7 on the burn rack right now. I will have initial thoughts this weekend.
Non vented would give me 5 min of listening pleasure before pressure build up.
The new Aurora looks interesting tho.
The constant posts about stating thier warranty policies really put me off quite honestly. But of I get a chance I would love to hear a few and understand what the hype is all about!
The warranty isn't that huge of a deal. Some of the mainstream brands dont even honor their warranty or ask you to pay for shipping/repairs.

I was denied warranty 3 months into owning a very popular mainstream IEM that has a 1 year standard warranty due to the left side not working anymore.

The great thing about AüR is they have high QC standards. With the exception of one IEM that I know of that had reverse polarity to which they fixed the issue

When it comes to ChiFi warranties can be hit or miss.
 
Jun 17, 2023 at 1:36 AM Post #9,968 of 16,346
I have SR7 on the burn rack right now. I will have initial thoughts this weekend.

The warranty isn't that huge of a deal. Some of the mainstream brands dont even honor their warranty or ask you to pay for shipping/repairs.

I was denied warranty 3 months into owning a very popular mainstream IEM that has a 1 year standard warranty due to the left side not working anymore.

The great thing about AüR is they have high QC standards. With the exception of one IEM that I know of that had reverse polarity to which they fixed the issue

When it comes to ChiFi warranties can be hit or miss.
SR7 did improve with burn in.
 
Jun 17, 2023 at 4:24 AM Post #9,969 of 16,346
Serial isn’t burned but I tried some cables and I tend to prefer stock cable, now I understand what you meant and maybe I’ll buy G4 too😀
I'm really curious about any opinion of G4 used on serial vs space cable. For what concern burn in I listened to serial ootb but then I leave them one week playing burn in tracks without listening. If you have try orange tips that open highs and seal very well or ask penon for them in the next order.
 
Jun 17, 2023 at 8:10 AM Post #9,970 of 16,346
I'm really curious about any opinion of G4 used on serial vs space cable. For what concern burn in I listened to serial ootb but then I leave them one week playing burn in tracks without listening. If you have try orange tips that open highs and seal very well or ask penon for them in the next order.
You can ask for them??
 
Jun 17, 2023 at 11:08 AM Post #9,972 of 16,346
Oh dear that’s a real chonker! Compared to Flow?

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Top to bottom: Bass, Flow, CS819 (since that’s what most people in this thread are likely to have encountered).

Flow looks as thick but is softer, more loosely braided and drapes well. I had mine made without ear guides and never had trouble with it. Never used the chin slider either. Bass is stiffer and will pull the iems out of my ears if I don’t use the slider.

Edited to add: interesting perspective over on the Eletech thread on why they build their cables without sliders.

I really love the sound...it's phenomenal, deep bass, wide stage and sparkling highs. The ergos on the other hand...

So tempting. And of course I need another cable like I need a hole in my arm…

The warranty isn't that huge of a deal. Some of the mainstream brands dont even honor their warranty or ask you to pay for shipping/repairs.

I was denied warranty 3 months into owning a very popular mainstream IEM that has a 1 year standard warranty due to the left side not working anymore.

The great thing about AüR is they have high QC standards. With the exception of one IEM that I know of that had reverse polarity to which they fixed the issue

When it comes to ChiFi warranties can be hit or miss.

+1. I would much rather have high QC standards than a long warranty period that may or may not be honoured. Even if a product is under warranty, returning it usually entails a long wait, possible communication issues and all the uncertainty involved in having it sent to China and back, not to mention shipping and other costs.

Anyone got a Serial to sell me?

Not me, but why not get it new while the AE sale is still on? It may not be discounted outright by Penon themselves, but Ali probably has coupons or discounts you could use, depending on your location and account.
 
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Jun 17, 2023 at 12:18 PM Post #9,973 of 16,346
So tempting. And of course I need another cable like I need a hole in my arm…
:smile::smile: Whenever it's on sale it tempts me, it's been on Ali's wish list for a while, but the exact same thing happens to me.
 
Jun 17, 2023 at 12:44 PM Post #9,974 of 16,346
IMG_6939.jpeg

Top to bottom: Bass, Flow, CS819 (since that’s what most people in this thread are likely to have encountered).

Flow looks as thick but is softer, more loosely braided and drapes well. I had mine made without ear guides and never had trouble with it. Never used the chin slider either. Bass is stiffer and will pull the iems out of my ears if I don’t use the slider.

Edited to add: interesting perspective over on the Eletech thread on why they build their cables without sliders.

Cheers for the comparo.

Judging from your photo it does look pretty thick for just 2 wires. The stiffness and having to use the chin slider are also of concern, maybe it will soften up with use?

Interesting observation by Electech, never would have thought the prolonged use of slider could cause breakage to the wires.
 
Jun 17, 2023 at 3:21 PM Post #9,975 of 16,346
I’ve been lurking, waiting to pull trigger on 10ae until I noticed the graph was really similar to my Fh7s. I loved tracking acoustic bass with fan 2 and that experience has me looking at 10ae hard. Pretty interesting how similar fh7s and 10ae graph - vs tech and construction my curiosity kind of plateaued
 

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