The Official 64 Audio Thread | apex & tia Technologies
May 30, 2023 at 10:48 AM Post #22,066 of 23,720
any recomendations for eartips for u4s?
I've a Nio, assuming both have same nozzle and housing design, maybe you can try Spinfit W1
 
May 30, 2023 at 1:20 PM Post #22,067 of 23,720
any recomendations for eartips for u4s?
Azla crystal, xelastec, sednaearfit light short or spinfit W1 work best with my u12t (same shape as u4s). I have narrow and short ear canals so I do a lot of tip rolling to get comfortable fit.
EDIT: You want short tips with 64 Audio IEMs. TIA driver works best with deep fit.
 
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May 30, 2023 at 2:12 PM Post #22,068 of 23,720
I believe all 64 Audio IEMs have the same nozzle diameter & length; it's the angles which may differ. When properly seated the eartips should barely extend past the nozzle, almost flush. The Tia driver sits right at the nozzle. I believe there was a photo posted somewhere in the thread.
 
May 30, 2023 at 9:44 PM Post #22,069 of 23,720
I believe all 64 Audio IEMs have the same nozzle diameter & length; it's the angles which may differ. When properly seated the eartips should barely extend past the nozzle, almost flush. The Tia driver sits right at the nozzle. I believe there was a photo posted somewhere in the thread.
Based on my experience, the nozzle length between models are not the same, the Trio is shorter than U12t for example
 
May 31, 2023 at 12:32 AM Post #22,071 of 23,720
Happy U12t owner here. Is the tia Trió a good complementary pair to the U12t?
Owned and loved both, Trio is more fun and energetic but also pushes vocals a little back instead of an all-rounder U12t
 
May 31, 2023 at 12:34 AM Post #22,072 of 23,720
Owned and loved both, Trio is more fun and energetic but also pushes vocals a little back instead of an all-rounder U12t
Thanks! This is likely my next pair. In your experience with the Trió, is there harshness/brightness/sibilance in any part of the frequency response?

Also, how is the bass? I hear it’s more mid-bass focused than sub-bass focused.
 
May 31, 2023 at 1:07 AM Post #22,073 of 23,720
Hi ive been a happy sony ier z1r user for a long time,
But i want another iem for my collection
I like the soubd signature if my z1r especially the bass, not the sub bass, but the punch and thumbs on it.

Anyway im still debating with myself wheter to get u12t, u4s or senn ie600

What i want is something punchy in the bass but also better vocal than my z1r

SOmetimes listening to z1r can be fatiguing so i want something relaxing for this one.

Thanks
 
May 31, 2023 at 2:23 AM Post #22,074 of 23,720
Thanks! This is likely my next pair. In your experience with the Trió, is there harshness/brightness/sibilance in any part of the frequency response?

Also, how is the bass? I hear it’s more mid-bass focused than sub-bass focused.
To my ears, the highs on Trio are sparkle but they are not sib or harsh, the bass on it is 10/10 (it has detail, texture, and punch, a little mid-bass oriented)
 
May 31, 2023 at 11:03 AM Post #22,075 of 23,720
Hi ive been a happy sony ier z1r user for a long time,
But i want another iem for my collection
I like the soubd signature if my z1r especially the bass, not the sub bass, but the punch and thumbs on it.

Anyway im still debating with myself wheter to get u12t, u4s or senn ie600

What i want is something punchy in the bass but also better vocal than my z1r

SOmetimes listening to z1r can be fatiguing so i want something relaxing for this one.

Thanks
If you want something that retains some of the bass performance while having improved vocals I don’t think you can go wrong with the U4s. With the new M12 module the Apex modules that comes with the U4s gives you some great options for the bass performance that you would be in the mood for on any given day. Plus the after market cable options are endless with the two-pin connections.

I was deciding between the U4s and the IE600 and ultimately went with the U4s due to it being more versatile and having more after market cable options. Very happy with these IEMs.
 
May 31, 2023 at 11:38 AM Post #22,076 of 23,720
To my ears, the highs on Trio are sparkle but they are not sib or harsh, the bass on it is 10/10 (it has detail, texture, and punch, a little mid-bass oriented)
Thanks! How’s the sub-bass on the Trió?
 
May 31, 2023 at 1:12 PM Post #22,077 of 23,720
We published a video yesterday going over some of the ways the non-pro audio/musician can use in-ears and headphones. Probably fairly basic info for all of you, but could be a good resource to send to the uninitiated or just a good place to argue in the comments. enjoy :)

 
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May 31, 2023 at 8:30 PM Post #22,078 of 23,720
Thanks! How’s the sub-bass on the Trió?
Sub bass on the trio is very good. Notes have a lot of weight and it takes EQ very well. Compared to other sets there is a noticeable increase in slam/dynamics (small, but noticeable)
 
May 31, 2023 at 9:41 PM Post #22,079 of 23,720
Thanks! How’s the sub-bass on the Trió?
Gives the Trio 10 points, and U12t will be 7/10, I feel every "air" each time the sub-bass slams me, but it does not bloat
 
Jun 1, 2023 at 1:37 AM Post #22,080 of 23,720
Happy U12t owner here. Is the tia Trió a good complementary pair to the U12t?
I love the trio. There is a dip at around 1kHz, acting as a tuning “trick” to pull the soundstage a bit away from my head, giving Trio a large presentation. The rest of the good stuffs from U12t is there. The bass is more “bouncy” as well, likely due to the DD woofer.

If you can, you should have a try to ensure that the 1kHz dip is not too strange for you, though. I know some people who can’t stand that tuning
 

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