Yeah I'll probably get a U12t again, as soon as funds allow. Right now I only have budget for one, and the Nio fits my preferences more. But the U12t is an exceptional IEM to have around for that special 'reference' listen when it's all about resolution, details and that holographic stage...
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Mostly pop and the vocal/progressive side of EDM. Bit of classical on the side.
Agreed with you 100% when you use words like, "reference," "resolution," and "details" to describe the U12t!
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I sold my first one because of financial reasons pre-pandemic. I was able to get a second one and spend a lot of time with it during the lockdowns, my love for it did not change. Overall, it was the weight of the shells and the fit in my ear that led to me selling them this time around. Regardless the u12t is the undisputed number 1 on my list.
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Absolutely, one of my plans was to use the u12t at church for live mixing. We're not planning to resume in person services anytime soon and I sold the u12t. Maybe a A12t will be in my hands when we do open up. I can't think of any other iem I could get within my constraints for that kind of use case. And my current stable is not exactly tuned for that kind of stuff.
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I must have. They tell me the Nio isn't really for sleeping. It's pretty delicate. But I wear IEMs for either exercise or sleep. Is there an IEM that is more durable, tougher and sounds this good? Recommendations please? You guys have fueled my equipment purchases for years. Thank you all for your help...
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I went to sleep with the Nio, it’s fine provided you don’t turn your head. For going to sleep the most comfortable IEMs I used are hands down the Beyerdynamic Xelento, great sound, just not Nio level, and you can turn your head as much as you want.
For sleeping... Senn IE800s
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I need IEMs to be quiet in bed...are the Tia Fourte's tougher? I'm looking for durable, tough and great sound. Price not important. I need the best. JMR77..how do the Senns compare to the Fourte's??
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I just sold one of the toughest IEMs. A JH Audio metal jacket Angie II. It had a screw on 4 pin rather than 2 pin push on. Too big to sleep with though and size is why I sold it and then ordered a new custom Angie for a good price.
It’s not the IEMs themselves that aren’t tough. It’s the 2-pin connection. Regardless of how high-quality the cable is, if you wear them to sleep you’re almost guaranteed to at the very least bend the pins. In your case you bent and then broke the pins. 2-pin connections aren’t meant to just detach by themselves. Even a steel spoon will bend with enough pressure/force and the 2-pin connectors on the cable are much thinner. This is why I suggested maybe getting an IEM with MMCX connectors. There are other inherent issues with MMCX connectors, but for this specific use-case, I think they are more likely to hold up better; they may just pop out of the IEM.
~edit - as @mwhals pointed out, the JH Audio 4-pin connectors are quite durable. Although with the non-metal JH Audio IEMs, I think the shells themselves are more likely to break around the connector than the cable/4-pin connectors themselves.
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what IEM with MMCX connectors would you recommend? thanks
no idea what your preferences are, but two that jump to mind are the Solaris 2020 and IEr-z1r. Latter may have fit issues given size (I personally has fit issues with them...may be challenging in bed given your use case)
My Fourte are also a small enough body to be easy to sleep with. I enjoy both the Senn and Fourte to nod off. The LX is too big and it broke the 2 pin solder joint on the cable.
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Without knowing your signature preferences it would hard to make hard recommendations, but maybe take a took at the Sony M7 or M9; the semi-sleeved MMCX connection is quite solid. Campfire Audio IEMs have reinforced MMCX connections as well, although you may have fit issues with the shell shape/design. This is somewhat off-topic on the 64 Audio thread though so I suggest maybe taking this to PM.
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