Zoom25
Headphoneus Supremus
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I found the mids on HD800 better than the mids on any other planar I've owned, including HE-500, LCD-2 and LCD-3.
Who can chime in?
IMHO, planars shouldn't be compared with dynamics. They're two different species. How does one compare a dog to a cat?
If you're a cat person, you get cats. If you're a dog person, you adopt dogs.
Planar-magnetic cans sound very different from dynamic headphones.
Planar magnetics are dynamics and can be compared (both are headphones), it happens all the time.
Heck even dynamics in general can sound very different from each other.
Maybe I shouldn't have generalized the dismissal of the comparison between the two. But no matter what one uses to drive the HD800, it can never be made to sound thick enough to compare with planars. Given the way the drivers are designed and built, there's just too much difference to make the comparison compete for purchase decision. I buy both. They're not like a comparison or competition between the T1 and HD800.
That's just my personal take on the matter. Planars sound fun. HD800 is reference. Again, just my own interpretation. Peace guys.
Senn's last flagship design lasted about 15 years and HD800 sales continue to outpace any other flagship, so I doubt we will see a new dynamic any time soon. An ortho is very unlikely, a modern electrostat based on HD800 frame (as done with HE90 and HD580) would be amazing.
What's the mainline like compared to your modded crack? Or the zana if you've heard it?
Also - what's the main difference in sound character between OTL and SET really? I really haven't heard enough tube amps to know.
The HD800 will let you hear the source and any differences for that matter very clearly.
I heard these headphones today with various equipment
e.g.
Sennheiser HDVD800 source: "someone's cellphone",
Eddy Current amp (model ?) source Philips CD Player
Head amp GSX MkII, source Mac book, DSD DAC (Ayre QB9?)
Mod wright Oppo 105, mod wright PS, amp ?
Auralic Taurus source : Sony Z1ES high res player/server
And bottom line, they all sound different. And I hate to admit it, the best HD800 combo during the Head-Fi meet today, in my book was the awkward Sony player with the Auralic amp. For me the sound stage is what sets the HD800 apart and just driving it directly from a exasound e20, I get lots of ambient information in my own set up and that was missing in a lot of the combinations above. The Sony player w/o touch screen seems out of place and is somewhat quirky to operate, once you get used, it might be OK but the button and dial menu is real slow compared to a PC/Mac/I pad based system. And that box is huge (21.6 x 19.5 x 8.5" ) and does NOT have a digital output - it's a Sony.
Take all this with a good pinch of salt, as there were "miles of extension cords" and multi outlets all over the place and all were playing different music - but that is basically the same situation for all discussions about the HD800 and how different they sound - yes they do, in different set ups. Start with the source quality and don't try to get a better sound by patching things up with "warm sounding cables" or tube amps, just my $0.02.
Enjoy the journey.
I wouldn't be too quick to jump to that conclusion either. There are many amps yet to be built that could deliver on that - thick and powerful. From what i hear of peoples impressions of the GlennOTL/HD800 combo it might be close to that sound signature with the right tube combo.