T1.1 and HD800 have quite a different tuning and thus I think it's more a matter of preference.
On the other hand HD800 and DT880 Pro have very similar tuning with HD800 being significantly more capable technically speaking. I think HD800 is a straight forward upgrade from DT880 for most genres except maybe rock/metal where DT880 still performs better to my ears.
All over the place hiding like pokemon (just kidding), my son has mine with him at the moment but I was thinking of getting a second one and let him keep the one he has, I got it used for $375, only had to do the mini-XLR connectors.
All over the place hiding like pokemon (just kidding), my son has mine with him at the moment but I was thinking of getting a second one and let him keep the one he has, I got it used for $375, only had to do the mini-XLR connectors.
I gotta believe there is some hardcore production variation going on or something. I can dismiss a certain amount of dissonance as subjective opinion, but the gap between first-hand accounts, various reviews and even the measurements themselves is too varied to discount:
I gotta believe there is some hardcore production variation going on or something. I can dismiss a certain amount of dissonance as subjective opinion, but the gap between first-hand accounts, various reviews and even the measurements themselves is too varied to discount:
I've only heard 4 different T1g1's so far, all sounded the same but audio memory isn't that great so there could have been some differences that I was not able to notice.
What I like about the T1 is for genres like pop, rock and classic rock is the bass is a little more rounded out and the sound stage is not spaced out too much like the HD-800, and since most of the recordings of these genres are not that great the T1 presents them more to my liking than the HD-800 which is too detailed for me to enjoy the music, a little like the HD-600 vs HD-650, where the HD-650 is the more forgiving of the two.
If I'm listening to well recorded/mastered classical, blues or jazz then the HD-800 is usually my choice over the T1 90% of the time.
I know I have heard that the sound signature of the later edition HD800 and the earlier versions differed some how but I don't recall what the difference was/is. I am looking at a pair with S/N 00563 so I have to imagine they are from 2009. How would these differ from the 10000 and later versions? Tks
I know I have heard that the sound signature of the later edition HD800 and the earlier versions differed some how but I don't recall what the difference was/is. I am looking at a pair with S/N 00563 so I have to imagine they are from 2009. How would these differ from the 10000 and later versions? Tks
A little bit more sub-bass, the treble peak is 1 or 2dB higher and centered at 6.5kHz instead of 6kHz and there's less treble extension but still good enough.
Very subtle differences.
A little bit more sub-bass, the treble peak is 1 or 2dB higher and centered at 6.5kHz instead of 6kHz and there's less treble extension but still good enough.
Very subtle differences.
Personal preferences play a big role here.
I would probably pick the later because I only use my HD800 with top class recordings.
The former is probably a slightly better all-rounder, without being a great all-rounder anyway.
Pairing is also important, if you'll use a very analytic SS rig then an early HD800 might pair better.
You can read about them here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared#user_HD800
Personal preferences play a big role here.
I would probably pick the later because I only use my HD800 with top class recordings.
The former is probably a slightly better all-rounder, without being a great all-rounder anyway.
Pairing is also important, if you'll use a very analytic SS rig then an early HD800 might pair better.
You can read about them here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared#user_HD800
I was actually planning to pair it with my Woo WA22 but I also have the Master 9 so I'll go with (and both my DACs are hybrids) whichever has the best syngergy.
I know I have heard that the sound signature of the later edition HD800 and the earlier versions differed some how but I don't recall what the difference was/is. I am looking at a pair with S/N 00563 so I have to imagine they are from 2009. How would these differ from the 10000 and later versions? Tks
I have heard both. Every HD800 comes with its own frequency response graph, so not every headphone is obviously identical, these individual differences has more to do with the subtle changes (if any) than the sonic differences between early to late models of the HD800. I would just buy the ones you can get the best deal on and are in good condition. In my opinion the differences between early to late models is a myth.
I have heard both. Every HD800 comes with its own frequency response graph, so not every headphone is obviously identical, these individual differences has more to do with the subtle changes (if any) than the sonic differences between early to late models of the HD800. I would just buy the ones you can get the best deal on and are in good condition. In my opinion the differences between early to late models is a myth.
In my opinion the HD800 is a spectacular headphone if not a bit flawed. It is a diamond in the rough. Give it what it needs and it sparkles and shines, stunning and brilliant.
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