Agree 100% about stereo amps (Dagostino is a fine example), although I prefer HPs to speakers. Sold most of my speakers which confuses my two channel aficionado friends, lol. I just enjoy the intimacy of HPs more and I like to listen to music when I am working at my desk.Thanks for the response. How the hell do you accomplish that? No dealers locally (S. Florida). I'd hate to invest $5k in a phone and then find out it doesn't work with a pair of $12k amps and then have to buy another amp.
Now I remember why I got out of high end HP about 5 years ago and just stuck to speaker based systems. I'm not saying you don't need to be careful about matching speaker amps/speakers, but I've never had a big $ amp/speaker combo that was awful. Some speakers or amps worked out better than others but there was enough research you could do (at least I could) to ensure everything played nicely together. Pairing high-end phones / amp combos seem like hit or miss to me. TOTL headphone only amps are crazy priced compared to the quality you get in a similarly priced speaker amp, WA33 anyone? You can get a Dagostino stereo amp for $8k that is of much higher build quality.
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The JPS Labs: Abyss AB-1266 Impressions Thread
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ken6217
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You can make a case for your room being the most important piece of equipment.
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I can make the case for both speakers and HP. I don't listen enough to a system I have more than $150k into because I don't want to disturb the family (I listen LOUD). That's why I am looking at phones (again). Would prefer not to have top spend more than $5k all-in because I have spent a lot of money on the system the past few months and wife is no terribly happy about it. That's why a TOTL HP that works with the amps I have at home would be great.
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Ah the old problem. I feel like we are eternally stuck in a cycle between speakers and headphones, given the situation with families and so on.I can make the case for both speakers and HP. I don't listen enough to a system I have more than $150k into because I don't want to disturb the family (I listen LOUD). That's why I am looking at phones (again). Would prefer not to have top spend more than $5k all-in because I have spent a lot of money on the system the past few months and wife is no terribly happy about it. That's why a TOTL HP that works with the amps I have at home would be great.
The power would halve as the impedance doubles (using an ideal relationship). So 17.5 watts into 17 ohms. 8.75 W into 34 ohms. 4.375 W into 68 ohms. So you should be able to drive the 1266. You can also buy impedance matching wires or devices if it is noisy. I have been thinking about this myself, but have not done it. Others have and recommend it highly as they feel speaker amps are made better and for less money. Can you try it with an inexpensive HP? If so, let us know. Tks.Any opinions on pairing a 35W SET amp (6C33) with either the Abyss or the Susvara phones? I have a pair of Wall M50s just sitting around gathering dust that I used in a set-up with single driver speakers. The Walls sounded great driving Tonian speakers and I thought might be good driving headphones. They are built like brick **ithouses and I thought 35W into 8ohm would translate nicely into a 47 ohm load.
Thanks in advance.
paradoxper
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Your amp will likely be fine.I can make the case for both speakers and HP. I don't listen enough to a system I have more than $150k into because I don't want to disturb the family (I listen LOUD). That's why I am looking at phones (again). Would prefer not to have top spend more than $5k all-in because I have spent a lot of money on the system the past few months and wife is no terribly happy about it. That's why a TOTL HP that works with the amps I have at home would be great.
SuperBurrito
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Exactly. I have a small home and most of my listening is very early in the morning or late at night. Headphones are the only way.Ah the old problem. I feel like we are eternally stuck in a cycle between speakers and headphones, given the situation with families and so on.
canfabulous
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Absolutely the same, outside of Home Theatre use. I really don't use my speakers for music as much these days.Exactly. I have a small home and most of my listening is very early in the morning or late at night. Headphones are the only way.
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Has anyone compared the JPS SC cable with the Danacable Lazuli Nirvana cable? I have the Nirvana cable so I don’t have the heart or the funds for a JPS SC cable. Any opinion by experience would be appreciated.
I expect my new Abyss 1266 Phi TC next week.
I expect my new Abyss 1266 Phi TC next week.
That looks great! Did you order this from somewhere or make it yourself?My new stand.
Also I see you are using the silver dragon moon audio cable. Any thoughts on how this pairs with the 1266? Or if you've already posted them and could link it I would really appreciate it.
Thanks! Commissioned it to a carpenter I know. Was his first test before I commission him a new study table, lol.That looks great! Did you order this from somewhere or make it yourself?
Also I see you are using the silver dragon moon audio cable. Any thoughts on how this pairs with the 1266? Or if you've already posted them and could link it I would really appreciate it.
The silver dragon is fine. I prefer it to the stock. Slightly more refined across the frequency spectrum. It’s worth a look if you don’t want to spring for the SC.
So headphone auditions in Amsterdam has the 1266 ROOMS stand in stock https://www.headphoneauditions.nl/product/haa-abyss-stand/ or at least the owner is about to receive 20 units. I emailed him, Stefan, at stefan@headphoneauditions.nl, to request one of the 20 units. They don't normally ship to the US if that's where you're from but you can ask and he will take care of it for you. Total price is 349 euros (including shipping) which was a bit over 400 usd for me. It's a lot but it's the best stand I've seen for the 1266. Hopefully other's in this thread can take advantage of this if they've been waiting to get one of these.
Good to know it's definitely something I've been interested in. I was trying to get a Vykari cable from Norne but the silver supply issues worldwide means that there is a long wait just for him to start making one for you. So I've been looking elsewhere. Probably will pick up a copper cable from Norne but am waiting to hear if they are able to make those. If not I may end up with the Moon Audio cable as the ergonomics of the stock cable are not the best.The silver dragon is fine. I prefer it to the stock. Slightly more refined across the frequency spectrum. It’s worth a look if you don’t want to spring for the SC.
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