The Darkvoice/La Figaro 332C and 332S Impressions/Discussion Thread
Jan 25, 2010 at 7:13 PM Post #106 of 454
Conspiracy theory: they know you're waiting for them and deliberately wait for you to go out and then try to deliver them.
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Jan 25, 2010 at 8:28 PM Post #107 of 454
"Originally Posted by yuking09 View Post
The old 332 uesd two SOLEN capacitor which is in the left and right channels are 30uf
The new 332 used two EC capacitor which is in the left and right channels are 40uf , the new 332 is more suitable for the low-frequency low-impedance headphones

new 3322(332s) still testing."


-- I just wanted to get a clarification. So is Yuking09 saying that the newer 332c and 332s both can handle lower impedance to a greater degree than their predecessor because of new capacitors? If so, then this is fantastic. I might just spring for a new one than a used one on the forums... This all depends on whether a potential buy for a 336SE goes thru for me.
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Jan 25, 2010 at 10:08 PM Post #108 of 454
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Originally Posted by Mullet /img/forum/go_quote.gif
"Originally Posted by yuking09 View Post
The old 332 uesd two SOLEN capacitor which is in the left and right channels are 30uf
The new 332 used two EC capacitor which is in the left and right channels are 40uf , the new 332 is more suitable for the low-frequency low-impedance headphones

new 3322(332s) still testing."


-- I just wanted to get a clarification. So is Yuking09 saying that the newer 332c and 332s both can handle lower impedance to a greater degree than their predecessor because of new capacitors? If so, then this is fantastic. I might just spring for a new one than a used one on the forums... This all depends on whether a potential buy for a 336SE goes thru for me.
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I've mentioned this alot of times in this thread but I'm totally sure Yuking means that the 332C is better with lower impedance stuff and the 332S is for higher impedance stuff. I even emailed him about this and got a reply stating "yes"
 
Jan 25, 2010 at 10:38 PM Post #109 of 454
You meant "lower" impedance stuff, right? Well that's good news!
 
Jan 26, 2010 at 12:02 AM Post #110 of 454
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Originally Posted by Mullet /img/forum/go_quote.gif
You meant "lower" impedance stuff, right? Well that's good news!


Yeah, I fixed it.
 
Jan 26, 2010 at 7:03 AM Post #112 of 454
Just a quick note that I'm really happy with the 332S. It has maybe 30 hours on it now, but already sounds incredible. Transparency, punch, detail, space, PRaT, all I hoped for is there. Keep in mind that I came from a Dared MP5, which is not a real contender. On the other hand: I owned a pair of baby Orpheus for about a decade so it's not that I have never experienced what good audio is about. Hope I'm not cursing here, but the baby Orpheus never really got me hooked. Too analytical, too little soul for my liking. Probably it was the amp that made it sound too dry, I sold it off to an American Head-Fier that said he would use it with other amps.

The slight hum in my 332S has reduced, hope that trend will continue. The highs are already quite refined: don't know if it's the stock Russian tubes that came with it (6Ж1П Voshkod ‘71) but I never experienced the screeching high that Godkin and other reported for new 3322 amps. The lows are the only area where I feel a bit less would be better. Still don't have the Ericsson 403B in, so the Russian tubes will get more play.
 
Jan 26, 2010 at 4:19 PM Post #114 of 454
Is there a category the tubes used in the 332/3322/332s/332c (that's going to get really annoying saying that all the time, lol) so that it is easier to find different manufacturers? I want to get some more tubes but all the tubes used with the 332 have different names.
 
Jan 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM Post #115 of 454
Stock the 332 family of amps uses 2 X 6J1s pentodes (either of Chinese or Russian origin). Western equivalents are: EF95, M8100, CV850, CV4010, 6AK5, 6AK5W, 5654, 5654W, 5654SQ, 5591, 403A and 403B.

With the larger tubes it's much easier: stock 2X6C19s (of Chinese origin) triodes. Better Russian versions, made by SVETLANA and ULYANOVSK, are: 6C19N or "ruggedised" 6C19N-B (or in English 6S19P or 6S19P-V).
 
Jan 26, 2010 at 4:46 PM Post #116 of 454
Hmm, so I've already got the best power tubes. I find the 6C19N to sound better than the 6C19N-B's.

Thanks, Godkin, always there to help a noob like me.
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Jan 26, 2010 at 5:14 PM Post #118 of 454
OK, things just got a bit more complex. Apaprently, there are two more versions of the 6S19P tube: the 6S19P-VR and the 6S19P-DR. Some more research is needed on this, but the 6S19P-VR versions, made by ULYANOVSK, are on sale at E-Bay (VR apparently stands for shockproof). If the DR versions exist, and a couple of sites say they do, it would be very exciting: they should be the dogs bollocks as the DR stands for exceptionally long sevice life. DR versions for my HEAD-MONITOR amp (6H30P-DR) are just ridiculously expensive - about £120 pair - but they are meant to be superb, so here's hoping.
 
Jan 26, 2010 at 5:50 PM Post #119 of 454
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Originally Posted by nsx_23 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
May I ask where are people getting their amps from?


I believe people can obtain them here...

http://www.boyier.com/index.php

and you can find a few vendors on ebay as well. I think head-direct sells them in the US.
 
Jan 26, 2010 at 6:13 PM Post #120 of 454
Anyone know if the 336c has the new capacitors as well? I seriously can't decide between the 332c, THA332, 336se, or 336c. My wallet is hurting enough as it is with buying the HD650s...

~mullet
 

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