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[报价=鲻鱼; 6350826]行家伙，我还是有点感到困惑与老332 332c。据我所知，332c现在是低阻抗惠普等进展，但确实使他们不如旧332使用的问候与HD650s 等？或将得到更好的332c低阻抗，因为现在可以用罐，不喜欢斗斗棕色的声音。[/报价]



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[Sasahara]

Um...Can somebody translate? ^

 

[deltaspirit]

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Originally Posted by Sasahara /img/forum/go_quote.gif Um...Can somebody translate? ^

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the good fellow, I a little feels puzzled and old 332 332c. As far as I know, 332c now is progress and so on low impedance HP, but causes their not as before 332 uses truly the regards and HD650s and so on? Or will obtain the better 332c low impedance, because the present may use the pot, does not like fighting the brown the sound

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this one is better

] OK guys, I am still a bit confused with the old 332 332c. As far as I know, 332c Hewlett-Packard is now low impedance and so progress, but it does make them better than the old 332 used in greetings and HD650s and so on? Or will be better 332c low-impedance, because now you can use cans, do not like brown Doudou's voice.

 

[Audict123]

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Originally Posted by Oskari /img/forum/go_quote.gif 6S19Ps are not rectifiers.

No, your're right. I started that error one page ago but the smaller amplifier tubes that are powered by the 6S19S run on AC.

 

[Audict123]

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Funny detail difference: the transformer hood in my case is grey, not black as on this picture. What about the one on yours Luckyfrog?

 

[ogygia]

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Originally Posted by 翡伽璐 /img/forum/go_quote.gif [报价=鲻鱼; 6350826]行家伙，我还是有点感到困惑与老332 332c。据我所知，332c现在是低阻抗惠普等进展，但确实使他们不如旧332使用的问候与HD650s 等？或将得到更好的332c低阻抗，因为现在可以用罐，不喜欢斗斗棕色的声音。[/报价]

All headfi-ers, I am still confussing with 332 and 332c. AFAIK, 332c is design for low impendence cans, but in fact it is not as good as 332 with HD650 such high impendence cans. Perheps it match better with low impedence cans...Because I can use can(罐) right now, I don't like the sound charactor of (斗斗棕色)

I dun understand 斗斗棕色...斗斗brown!?

PS: "翡伽珞" is the chinese name of "LA FIGARO"
I like his honesty on 332s comparing with old 332 with HD650

 

[Mullet]

I got totally screwed. I emailed boyier.com several times making sure the old 332 that they had on their site was indeed 110v. I got confirmation that they had them in stock. I ordered one and proceeded to go nuts on eBay buying tubes and such and then this morning I get an email stating that they don't have any of the 110v version left. They offered to sell me the 332c, but as I've been reading in this thread the 332c is meant for low impedance cans. I asked them about the impedance difference between the 332 and the 332c and haven't got a response yet. I can cancel the order, but maybe the 332c is fine with HD650s. Has anyone tried them with HD650s that can confirm that the 332c is not worth the time and hastle?

 

[Godkin]

Mullet, I would say the 332C would be fine with the HD650s. They have only upped the uF on the output caps by about 10uF a channel, from 30uF to 40uF. On my 3322, they upped the capitance to 40uF per channel and it sounds fine with low impedance headphones, but still sounds superb with the HD650s.

 

[Mullet]

Great! I'm glad you confirmed this for me. This thread has some confusing info in it that specifies that the 332c is the low impedance version, but it never clarified that it's still perfect for high impedance cans. It seems you've clarified that for me and possibly others. I'm guessing that maybe the original 332 might be slightly better for 650s, but the difference is negligible.

On another note, I bought a matched pair of CV4010s for $20 shipped and 4 matched 6S19P-Vs for $24 shipped. I'm hoping to win 4 matched 1961 RCA 6AK5(W)s. I figure with three sets of tubes I'll be happy for a long time. I'll definitely let the Chinese tubes burn in first before moving to the other tubes.

 

[ogygia]

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Originally Posted by Mullet /img/forum/go_quote.gif I asked them about the impedance difference between the 332 and the 332c and haven't got a response yet. I can cancel the order, but maybe the 332c is fine with HD650s. Has anyone tried them with HD650s that can confirm that the 332c is not worth the time and hastle?

The old 332 uesd two SOLEN capacitor 30uf each channel
The new 332c used two EC capacitor 40uf each channel

solen is an audio grade coupling cap...
EC is an unknown cap........

30uf to 40uf....as I mentioned before...not much different on theory.
for low impedence can...go for amp with output transformers. Or may be you can accept the bass-lacked result

 

[ogygia]

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[Mullet]

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Originally Posted by ogygia /img/forum/go_quote.gif The old 332 uesd two SOLEN capacitor 30uf each channel The new 332c used two EC capacitor 40uf each channel solen is an audio grade coupling cap... EC is an unknown cap........ 30uf to 40uf....as I mentioned before...not much different on theory. for low impedence can...go for amp with output transformers. Or may be you can accept the bass-lacked result

So you're saying that in "theory" there shouldn't be a difference between the 332 and the 332c because there is only a difference in 10uf per channel. Then why are there posts in this thread that state that is version is for lower impedance cans? It's frustrating because it seems that its a matter of opinion and not the straight facts. I guess the only way to tell is if someone had a side by side comparison of the 332 and the 332c to see how much different the sound signature is.

~mullet

 

[BigTony]

The stock chinese tubes don't do the amp any justice, i'd swap them asap.

 

[Godkin]

Mullet, don't get confused. I'm not talking in theoretical terms: I own a 3322 with 40uF per channel output caps (VISHAY) and it still sounds great with the HD650s, better than the old 332. Remember, the 332 range of amps was designed with the HD650s in mind. There's not point DV or LA FIGARO destroying an amp's formidable reputation with high impedance headphones, but there's certainly a need for them to enhance its performance with low impedance ones.

 

[Mullet]

Got it! Logic has been defying me today. I'm going to go with a 332c then and call it a day. Hopefully Boyier.com will make good on their mistake and give me discounted shipping or something.