The Continuation Of The Sony Walkman 1Z/1A Thread!

[JSQT]

I’ve just received the IER-Z1Rs this afternoon and first impressions are that it is in a different league than the Rai Penta. The RPs are definitely more comfortable but the soundstage and imaging is very much forward and inside the head. The fit of the RPs is svelte and comfortable, and easy to fit with a quick twist in the little “thumb“ indent of the body. The first impression from the Z1Rs is that the soundstage and imaging are very close to a real “speakers in the room” stereo, with wide sound field and very precise imaging of the instruments not only from left to right but front to back. However they are a lot less comfortable than the RPs. I am using the large triple comfort tips and I still feel like I can hear too much outside when music isn’t playing. They also feel like they are hanging out of my ears versus the RPs which have a svelte, close fit.

Finally it’s worth mentioning that the Rai Pentas seem to be more sensitive than the Z1Rs… I was listening to the WM-1Z in low gain mode at about 70 on volume, but really needed to put on high gain at about 90 on the volume to get the same immersive feel to the sound as with the Rai Pentas.

Anyway I’ve only listened for about an hour but I can tell already the Z1Rs definitely DO take the WM-1Z to another level not possible with the Rai Pentas. I’m going to leave everything playing for about 48 hours and keep checking in on the sound. I can tell the fit will take some getting used to but fidelity-wise they are miles beyond the Meze, at least with the WM-1Z.

 

[Redcarmoose]

The IER-Z1R are amazing!

I’ve just received the IER-Z1Rs this afternoon and first impressions are that it is in a different league than the Rai Penta. The RPs are definitely more comfortable but the soundstage and imaging is very much forward and inside the head. The fit of the RPs is svelte and comfortable, and easy to fit with a quick twist in the little “thumb“ indent of the body. The first impression from the Z1Rs is that the soundstage and imaging are very close to a real “speakers in the room” stereo, with wide sound field and very precise imaging of the instruments not only from left to right but front to back. However they are a lot less comfortable than the RPs. I am using the large triple comfort tips and I still feel like I can hear too much outside when music isn’t playing. They also feel like they are hanging out of my ears versus the RPs which have a svelte, close fit.

Finally it’s worth mentioning that the Rai Pentas seem to be more sensitive than the Z1Rs… I was listening to the WM-1Z in low gain mode at about 70 on volume, but really needed to put on high gain at about 90 on the volume to get the same immersive feel to the sound as with the Rai Pentas.

Anyway I’ve only listened for about an hour but I can tell already the Z1Rs definitely DO take the WM-1Z to another level not possible with the Rai Pentas. I’m going to leave everything playing for about 48 hours and keep checking in on the sound. I can tell the fit will take some getting used to but fidelity-wise they are miles beyond the Meze, at least with the WM-1Z.

 

[Ocelitgol]

I’ve just received the IER-Z1Rs this afternoon and first impressions are that it is in a different league than the Rai Penta. The RPs are definitely more comfortable but the soundstage and imaging is very much forward and inside the head. The fit of the RPs is svelte and comfortable, and easy to fit with a quick twist in the little “thumb“ indent of the body. The first impression from the Z1Rs is that the soundstage and imaging are very close to a real “speakers in the room” stereo, with wide sound field and very precise imaging of the instruments not only from left to right but front to back. However they are a lot less comfortable than the RPs. I am using the large triple comfort tips and I still feel like I can hear too much outside when music isn’t playing. They also feel like they are hanging out of my ears versus the RPs which have a svelte, close fit.

Finally it’s worth mentioning that the Rai Pentas seem to be more sensitive than the Z1Rs… I was listening to the WM-1Z in low gain mode at about 70 on volume, but really needed to put on high gain at about 90 on the volume to get the same immersive feel to the sound as with the Rai Pentas.

Anyway I’ve only listened for about an hour but I can tell already the Z1Rs definitely DO take the WM-1Z to another level not possible with the Rai Pentas. I’m going to leave everything playing for about 48 hours and keep checking in on the sound. I can tell the fit will take some getting used to but fidelity-wise they are miles beyond the Meze, at least with the WM-1Z.

They're vented so you're gonna hear the outside noise. And make sure to get the deepest fit as possible, go from the smallest tips.
Also, I feel like the TC tips mess up the sound a little. Stock silicone is awesome though.

Congrats on getting the Z1R!!!

 

[JSQT]

They're vented so you're gonna hear the outside noise. And make sure to get the deepest fit as possible, go from the smallest tips.
Also, I feel like the TC tips mess up the sound a little. Stock silicone is awesome though.

Congrats on getting the Z1R!!!

The venting explains a lot then. I initially tried a smaller silicone tip and could still hear my son talking to me from across the room, so I went with the largest triple comfort and it did seal the sound out but felt like it was jamming into my ear canal. Thanks to your comment I just started working my way up from the smallest silicone and now I find that medium-small actually has the best fit and seal. So thanks for that.

I am curious about the sensitivity of the Z1Rs, in that I feel like I am turning the volume WAY up on the WM1Z versus where I was with the Rai Penta.

I have this on high gain balanced output and I am still around 85-90 volume, which feels like it should be way too loud, even though it's comfortably loud on the Z1Rs. And I don't listen to loud music - primarily jazz and progressive pop.

 

[ducnsh]

Hi, my 1A just has been arrived, is there any settings/ways for USB DAC because it is delayed about 1sec when I plug to my laptop.

 

[10DeeQ]

@mwhals I just ran a test, and the iPhone camera adapter is not needed. A regular Lighting to USB cable will do when combined with the WMP-NWM10. The WM1Z correctly detected all sample rates that I used.

so with this set up i can listen to apple music loseless ?
that's great
btw where to buy the adapter ?

 

[Redcarmoose]

Normally we use BT to fix that. But VLC player has a delay adjustment setting so you can still get voice syncing. Though I’ve never used it?

Hi, my 1A just has been arrived, is there any settings/ways for USB DAC because it is delayed about 1sec when I plug to my laptop.

https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

 

[ducnsh]

Normally we use BT to fix that. But VLC player has a delay adjustment setting so you can still get voice syncing. Though I’ve never used it?

https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

you mean that Bluetooth Reciever? I just want to watch youtube

 

[Redcarmoose]

you mean that Bluetooth Reciever? I just want to watch youtube

Yes!
Because of the sync delay in movies we watch Bluetooth with YouTube. Only use actual DAC with music....(played on device). Or of course you can play music off your computer and not worry about delay. I’m pretty sure that is what everyone does?

Both receiving BT and the DAC ability came way later. Software 3.0 is when it arrived; we never expected it. It was a bonus!

 

[nc8000]

The venting explains a lot then. I initially tried a smaller silicone tip and could still hear my son talking to me from across the room, so I went with the largest triple comfort and it did seal the sound out but felt like it was jamming into my ear canal. Thanks to your comment I just started working my way up from the smallest silicone and now I find that medium-small actually has the best fit and seal. So thanks for that.

I am curious about the sensitivity of the Z1Rs, in that I feel like I am turning the volume WAY up on the WM1Z versus where I was with the Rai Penta.

I have this on high gain balanced output and I am still around 85-90 volume, which feels like it should be way too loud, even though it's comfortably loud on the Z1Rs. And I don't listen to loud music - primarily jazz and progressive pop.

I’m at 60-70 on low gain and about 50 on high gain with the 1Z and IER-Z1R except with dsd files where I usually have to go a bit louder

 

[ducnsh]

Can I charge 1A with 5V-2.4A adapter or need a 5V-1A adapter?

 

[gerelmx1986]

Can I charge 1A with 5V-2.4A adapter or need a 5V-1A adapter?

Ive charged mine with a samsunfg galazy a50 and a quickharge one and it charges at same speed

 

[10DeeQ]

Finally cave in
First impressions vs the hiby r6 2020
Using sony Z1R
WM1A bass is deeper and can go lower
The mid is warmer but a bit behind
The highs is smoother and less harsh
Hiby R6 2020 is punchier i feel its more punchy especially with faster beats music , so while the bass is lower and deeper in the WM1A , but the bass volume is bigger in the Hibby, mid is more forward, and the high is harsher on the Hiby.
Overall if i can put it in words
Sony is slightly darker
Hiby is brighter

but the hiby is already broken in
The sony just arrived on my table less than an hour ago

waiting to borrow a friend’s windows laptop to install the project z firmware

BTW in the WM1A , DSD files, high gain , with z1R i must crank the volume to 80-85 for my listening level is this normal ? Or im going deaf ?

 

[LuckyPantsu]

waiting to borrow a friend’s windows laptop to install the project z firmware

You can easily install it with a MacBook using parallels software, they have free trial.

 

[10DeeQ]

You can easily install it with a MacBook using parallel software, they have free trial.

but i don't have a window copy