THE COMPOSER OPEN BACK FLAGSHIP by AUSTRIAN AUDIO

Feb 1, 2024 at 11:10 AM Post #1,891 of 4,954
Don’t worry AA has no reputation yet. I really like the thread were 3 boys from Austria defending a expensive headphone (2500 Euro are expensive for 99 percent of people if I would ask them on the street) which sounds good and are built nice. and as a mobile device it has to be closed and not open bec I don’t see me on a plane or a train listening with an open back headphone. that’s just not happen in real life so mobility (easy to drive) aren’t working in the wild maybe at home. so easy to drive makes just no sense for a open headphone.
You are missing the point. The cost of ownership is far less for the composer with amp and dac included than many other similiar headphones including the HD800. But I move around a lot, and yes I don't want to listen to the composer on the plane or train. But when I get where I am going, I can take my phone and a dongle and use the composer and it sounds much better than either my stax or my hd800 from said dongle. Now maybe you finally get it.

So I am not from austria. I understand you don't like how nomax expresses himself. So your solution seems to be to behave outside the normal etiquette of head-fi by constantly posting negative opinions about a headphone you have never heard. I am hitting ignore.

Have a nice day. Enjoy the tunes. It's just headphones we talking about.
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 11:27 AM Post #1,892 of 4,954
Don’t worry AA has no reputation yet. I really like the thread were 3 boys from Austria defending a expensive headphone (2500 Euro are expensive for 99 percent of people if I would ask them on the street) which sounds good and are built nice. and as a mobile device it has to be closed and not open bec I don’t see me on a plane or a train listening with an open back headphone. that’s just not happen in real life so mobility (easy to drive) aren’t working in the wild maybe at home. so easy to drive makes just no sense for a open headphone.
Mobile doesn't mean street, subway or airplane only. Mobile could also be bedroom, kitchen , garden, outdoor or hotelroom. At least for me.
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 11:34 AM Post #1,893 of 4,954
Ok sorry, maybe we should take a poll:laughing:. I don't recall you saying you're a loving owner the HD800S and having spent time with the composer like the senn better. I missed it somehow.
I left a comment three months ago (after I tried Composer at the Hi-Fi Show)...
and it's very close to what Resolve said.
Even if I left a comment (perhaps I did) about HD800S and that I would never change HD800S for Composer...
still...there are no "we"; no one can speak in my name but myself; otherwise, I consider it as some "cult" s***
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Dude, I would never change Verum1 Mk2 (which I am listening to right now) for Composer.

Cheers!

:vulcan: :)
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 11:45 AM Post #1,894 of 4,954
Don’t worry AA has no reputation yet. I really like the thread were 3 boys from Austria defending a expensive headphone (2500 Euro are expensive for 99 percent of people if I would ask them on the street) which sounds good and are built nice. and as a mobile device it has to be closed and not open bec I don’t see me on a plane or a train listening with an open back headphone. that’s just not happen in real life so mobility (easy to drive) aren’t working in the wild maybe at home. so easy to drive makes just no sense for a open headphone.

Composer also appeals to a different group of buyers and is intended more for quiet environments. Especially where loudspeakers are not feasible for some reason and you still want to listen to music optimally without spending vast sums of money.
For die-hard hi-fi fans, 2,500 EURO is not too much when you look at other headphones above the 3,000 mark.
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 12:31 PM Post #1,895 of 4,954
You are missing the point. The cost of ownership is far less for the composer with amp and dac included than many other similiar headphones including the HD800. But I move around a lot, and yes I don't want to listen to the composer on the plane or train. But when I get where I am going, I can take my phone and a dongle and use the composer and it sounds much better than either my stax or my hd800 from said dongle. Now maybe you finally get it.

So I am not from austria. I understand you don't like how nomax expresses himself. So your solution seems to be to behave outside the normal etiquette of head-fi by constantly posting negative opinions about a headphone you have never heard. I am hitting ignore.

Have a nice day. Enjoy the tunes. It's just headphones we talking about.
I got that before but I speak for myself and that’s not important for my listening experience. so for you it works that way but not for me. and I’m speaking as a user by myself not for other users. hope you get it too
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 12:43 PM Post #1,896 of 4,954
Don’t worry AA has no reputation yet. I really like the thread were 3 boys from Austria defending a expensive headphone (2500 Euro are expensive for 99 percent of people if I would ask them on the street) which sounds good and are built nice. and as a mobile device it has to be closed and not open bec I don’t see me on a plane or a train listening with an open back headphone. that’s just not happen in real life so mobility (easy to drive) aren’t working in the wild maybe at home. so easy to drive makes just no sense for a open headphone.
Oh to the contrary, it absolutely does. Why should I have to invest in an amp that I can take with me? I’m often listening at some other place, and I’m quite happy that I don’t have to lug amps around but just my mobile source. And some headphones.
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 1:01 PM Post #1,897 of 4,954
Oh to the contrary, it absolutely does. Why should I have to invest in an amp that I can take with me? I’m often listening at some other place, and I’m quite happy that I don’t have to lug amps around but just my mobile source. And some headphones.
For this kind of usability it’s the perfect headphone for you. congrats
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 3:16 PM Post #1,898 of 4,954
Over 100 pages of telling us how a bargain the Composer is for it’s asking price, it’s almost like saying AA is losing money for pricing the Composer so cheap..
..and then I just finished watching Resolve’s review which absolutely is the opposite, getting less for what you’ll be paying for 😶

Anyway, that’s just that. I still have to audition the Composer and draw conclusions for myself.
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 3:41 PM Post #1,899 of 4,954
Over 100 pages of telling us how a bargain the Composer is for it’s asking price, it’s almost like saying AA is losing money for pricing the Composer so cheap..
..and then I just finished watching Resolve’s review which absolutely is the opposite, getting less for what you’ll be paying for 😶

Anyway, that’s just that. I still have to audition the Composer and draw conclusions for myself.
It's not a bargain. But it is a terrific headphone
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 4:14 PM Post #1,900 of 4,954
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Yes, much smoother in the highs and much more body and pressure from low end than many many years ago 😎
(Actually, anyone who uses a model with a roll-off for comparison will hear it what he missed😉)



My last two tracks with the composer for today







NOMAX

PS.lol
 
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Feb 1, 2024 at 4:29 PM Post #1,901 of 4,954
It's not a bargain. But it is a terrific headphone
It seems that Reveal's review broke a dam or caused a flame of opinions. It's quite something.
Anyhow I feel a bit absurd to make one's personal reference headphone a kind of market target price model. For 800S this might be tempting because it's price has been quite solid for years. I personally have now listened Composer for about 80 hours. For me, according to my listening experiences, the asking price seems to be most appropriate.

Maybe more experienced headfiers are able to judge a headphone by a few minutes in an audio happening representation. I can't do that. I think Composer is so good pr better that it earns a decent listening before making nonchalanting judgements. I have not heard Sennheiser S800 so I think it's not possible for me to compare it to Composer. Anyhow, for many the S800 seems to be an important headphone. I appreciate that.
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 4:43 PM Post #1,902 of 4,954
It seems that Reveal's review broke a dam or caused a flame of opinions. It's quite something.
Anyhow I feel a bit absurd to make one's personal reference headphone a kind of market target price model. For 800S this might be tempting because it's price has been quite solid for years. I personally have now listened Composer for about 80 hours. For me, according to my listening experiences, the asking price seems to be most appropriate.

Maybe more experienced headfiers are able to judge a headphone by a few minutes in an audio happening representation. I can't do that. I think Composer is so good pr better that it earns a decent listening before making nonchalanting judgements. I have not heard Sennheiser S800 so I think it's not possible for me to compare it to Composer. Anyhow, for many the S800 seems to be an important headphone. I appreciate that.

As headphone enthusiasts, we have a lot to thank Sennheiser/Axel and the HD800 for👍, more than anyone can imagine 😉

NOMAX

Ps.Good Night 😇
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 4:46 PM Post #1,903 of 4,954
Ich ziehe den Composer ganz sicher einem Utopia vor.
Der 800S ist ein sehr guter Kopfhörer, kann aber mit dem AA nicht wirklich konkurrieren!
Und den ADX sehe ich genau zwischen den Beiden, vielleicht etwas näher beim Sennheiser, auch ein toller Hörer.
That's interesting - but perhaps we'll need to agree to disagree about the HD800S!
 
Feb 1, 2024 at 5:03 PM Post #1,904 of 4,954
It seems that Reveal's review broke a dam or caused a flame of opinions. It's quite something.

I'm a big fan Maurice Ravel the Frenchman. But I think you meant Resolve the reviewer.

Regardless, Ravel the composer is in fantastic company with the Composer, headphone, I'd imagine.

:k701smile:
 

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