The Beyerdynamic Tesla DT 1350 Impressions thread

[plakat]

   
Ok, but is the DT1350 sound dependant on that clamp? If not, then I think they would sell a lot of "DT1350 vicegrip light" versions to us lowly consumers lol.

 
In my talks with people at Beyerdynamic they see the sound signature of the T51 more fitting for the consumer audience, so it was choice I think. Therefore I'd say a DT1350-light might be possible... still I don't know if that might ever happen given the differentiation problems. One might be better off trying to bend the headband.
This is not to say that I would not love to buy a second one with better comfort for day to day use. Plus the label "consumer" is not meant derogatory, its just to keep groups with quite different expectations / needs apart.

 

[waynes world]

   
In my talks with people at Beyerdynamic they see the sound signature of the T51 more fitting for the consumer audience, so it was choice I think. Therefore I'd say a DT1350-light might be possible... still I don't know if that might ever happen given the differentiation problems. One might be better off trying to bend the headband.
This is not to say that I would not love to buy a second one with better comfort for day to day use. Plus the label "consumer" is not meant derogatory, its just to keep groups with quite different expectations / needs apart.

 
So it sounds like there are no technical reasons why they couldn't make a more comfortable DT1350 that sounds just like the existing DT1350, and it's all really just marketing decisions. In that case, I hope they change their mind
 
Actually though, what I really want is the DT1350 sound in the T51P. So they should come up with the T51P-1350 lol.

 

[chailee80]

 
Would not hold my breath... the target audience for the DT1350 are professionals like DJs and sound engineers, the T51p just does not sit tight enough... besides that they were just recently updated and clamping force did not change. They don't consider that a flaw, its intended to clamp more than the consumer targeted T51p.

From what i could gather from dale thorn's youtube comparison video they did reduce the clamping force in the facelift model and changed the pads. He then put his t51 pads on his dt1350 which increased the bass i believe. I'm hoping beyerdynamic can do something similar while keeping the original dt1350 sound signature.

 

[KT66]

Just wore my mk1 DT1350 for 5 hours doing Xmas shopping in London, I wear glasses and take size 60cm hat. I feel no pain and no excessive force. I think after a while they loosen up.

I heard the T51p, and to me the 1350 is much better soundwise, and certainly more accurate to the recording.

 

[jon parker]

Well, I have had these for a couple of weeks and have definately become a fan
First listen out of the box was dissapointing. I could hear so much 'plastic' both outer and inner...so to the burn in stand
Now I love them.
They have a lovely clear crispy smooth sound. The soundstage is amazing. they really separate out instruments and throw them far out to the left and right but without compromising the middle. I particularly love this in headphones as it makes the music a lot more interesting to listen to and gives each of the instruments a chance to shine in the mix.
I can go from these to my HD 600's and back again and be happy with both, which is saying something.
The isolation is interesting - sitting in the front room of my parents with the TV on and them talking, I can hear both when there is no music playing but as soon as the music starts the isolation is perfect
A lot of comments I have read indicate it can be tricky to get the perfect positioning, which i can see. For me I got the right level (depth) first and then slowly move the pads forward and back and quickly find the best spot, mainly by the bass. Amping these really brought them to life and gave me my first WoW moment with them. Using a twin Burr Brown headphone amp had a lovely synergy. I think the relative warmth of the Burr Brown DAC's complimented the clarity of these cans wonderfully.
So yes, I am a fan of these wonderful headphones now  

 

[Focker]

Well, I have had these for a couple of weeks and have definately become a fan
First listen out of the box was dissapointing. I could hear so much 'plastic' both outer and inner...so to the burn in stand
Now I love them.
They have a lovely clear crispy smooth sound. The soundstage is amazing. they really separate out instruments and throw them far out to the left and right but without compromising the middle. I particularly love this in headphones as it makes the music a lot more interesting to listen to and gives each of the instruments a chance to shine in the mix.
I can go from these to my HD 600's and back again and be happy with both, which is saying something.
The isolation is interesting - sitting in the front room of my parents with the TV on and them talking, I can hear both when there is no music playing but as soon as the music starts the isolation is perfect
A lot of comments I have read indicate it can be tricky to get the perfect positioning, which i can see. For me I got the right level (depth) first and then slowly move the pads forward and back and quickly find the best spot, mainly by the bass. Amping these really brought them to life and gave me my first WoW moment with them. Using a twin Burr Brown headphone amp had a lovely synergy. I think the relative warmth of the Burr Brown DAC's complimented the clarity of these cans wonderfully.
So yes, I am a fan of these wonderful headphones now  

Congrats John

They really are fantastic headphones. Not just fantastic portables, fantastic headphones in general.

Enjoy

 

[autoexec]

Ok, but is the DT1350 sound dependant on that clamp? If not, then I think they would sell a lot of "DT1350 vicegrip light" versions to us lowly consumers lol.

If I wear them with the headband splitted, the bass drastically improves (quantity/quality I would say) so I think the SQ (specially that one of a kind bass) has got something to do with that clamping force..

 

[plakat]

Bass response of the DT1350 is very much dependent on the seal. To me splitting the headband increases the clamping force and may provide a better seal that way, but I can't wear it for long that way... so I keep the headband close and experimented with the position. Works for me.

 

[Slaphead]

I always use these with the split headband, the bass response improves, actually everything improves, and you can't shake them off your head - they're solidly in place.

I've never noticed an excessive clamping force, but then I've got headphones which I find uncomfortable because they don't clamp. I need to know I have something on my ears.

 

[chailee80]

I was never able to wear them with the headband split as they only just fit my ears normally and splitting the band caused them to sit too high on my ears. The first model had a crazy clamp that used to give me headaches, the facelift version was much better almost perfect out of the box.

 

[plakat]

the facelift version was much better almost perfect out of the box.

 
I think you mentioned that some time ago... still curious as the clamping force hasn't changed according to the data sheet. Maybe some unit to unit variation... but welcome of course.

 

[chailee80]

   
I think you mentioned that some time ago... still curious as the clamping force hasn't changed according to the data sheet. Maybe some unit to unit variation... but welcome of course.

I may have posted this before but heres a good comparison video.
 

 

[jon parker]

Ive heard a lot about the clamping force of these cans . . . but on mine there is no clamping force to speak of - just enough to ensure bass response.
maybe I have a small head but for me there is no issue here

 

[Focker]

  Ive heard a lot about the clamping force of these cans . . . but on mine there is no clamping force to speak of - just enough to ensure bass response.
maybe I have a small head but for me there is no issue here

 
Same here. Only issue I've ever had with comfort is when the cups press on the stems of my glasses, but it's not a big deal. I typically only use these in short sessions (2hr or less) anyway, cause if I'm home I'm more likely to fire up one of the big boys. 
 
That being said, I still consider these along with the Grado 80s to be the best bang for the buck headphones i've ever bought. Incredible value. 

 

[plakat]

The DT1350 is now my oldest set by quite a margin... still love them. Was my first Beyerdynamic headphone btw. Now my room looks more like a Beyer branch office