MuZo2
Headphoneus Supremus
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@khbaur Lets say if we can etch that pattern on pcb can we transfer it to kapton. If thats possible I think we can make something quickly.
I think this is a sick thread. Are there any people out there thinking about an "Open Source" audiophile community where we share ideas freely on printing our own -and/or simply where to source- various headphone parts, including drivers such as electrostatic or planar magnetic designs? I think it'd be really cool if there were DIY headphone designs and headphone kits just like the DIY amplifiers and stuff. If that community existed would this be our thread, or might we think about making a separate forum for all the possibilities that that might create? I mean, DIY IEM's (balanced armature drivers can be bought for relatively cheap, ear impressions can be made for "pennies," 3D printing and scanning is getting to the point you could just print your own custom ear molds pretty soon, although it's probably not there quite yet), 3D printable enclosures or volume knobs, or just various parts that are cost efficient to print, DIY headphone frames/cups that would allow for various baffle chassis to snap into place that could be surrogate homes for a slew of different (possibly -hopefully even- home brew planar) drivers, etc. Like that's such an awesome community I can't even imagine where all that would lead to down the road, and it would mostly be free, or cost of parts, plus the time/knowledge needed to design these things in a 3D environment (as well as time/knowledge to design and set up our 3D printers and where/who to source materials from) so we can print everything. And for people who don't want to go down that rabbit hole, other people with the time, knowledge and equipment can print kits and/or preassemble these kits for other people at the cost of whatever that's all worth to the involved parties.
To tell the truth, I don't even have a 3D printer yet, nor any of the equipment needed to "print" my planar magnetic diaphragm design, but I've got some ideas on building a (at least imo) pretty sick planar magnetic driver inspired by a lot of the vintage cans that I've auditioned/owned/sold/drooled over over the years, while attempting to stay true to the original "cheap bastards" mentality of the Ortho Roundup thread. I came here to tell you guys all about it as well as share my CAD designs with you but then realized I was rambling about my own project and you might not be interested. So, do people want to make a separate forum where we design/build/tweak headphones and learn stuff with/from each other "for free," and if so, where do I sign up, or who wants to build it, because I've got some stuff I'd like to post that I think might interest a few people.?
I believe we're confused here. The ultraviolet laser in the Peachy Printer is being used to break down inhibitor molecules in solution with the liquid resin. The UV breaks down the inhibitor molecules at our desired site(s) and the resin reacts with itself, or solidifies, much like a two part epoxy, afaik. To make things more complicated, the resin and laser strength are matched (inhibitor molecule density within the resin and number of UV photons bombarding the resin per second) and were designed to "cure" resin ONLY at the very surface of the liquid resin and ONLY wherever we point the laser (sunlight is not our friend here). By floating this resin on top of a salt water solution and by slowly dripping salt water underneath this resin, the resin slowly floats upward in our container allowing the laser to "print" objects out of this resin in three dimensions. I want to tell the software that my 3D object exists entirely within two dimensions, and I want to tell the software that that object exists on the plane of my photopolymer laminated diaphragm material sitting directly underneath the laser, and then I want the laser to make it happen. It theoretically will selectively expose the photopolymer allowing me to develop the image in soda ash so I can etch everything BUT my desired artwork.I'd like to ask if anyone has attempted to print a trace onto a diaphragm using a laser printer? I understand that even a conventional laser printer uses ink which is conductive, and I further understand that the conductivity of that ink probably won't be adequate to the task here, but I'm curious to know if anyone has actually tried it? Has anyone found a diaphragm material which will withstand the heat of being printed on with a conventional laser printer and ink?
1. I think there is a project to use conductive ink in printer.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1597902824/agic-print-printing-circuit-boards-with-home-print
2. Peachy Printer to drive laser? I donot undestand this, use of 3d printer to etch circuit artwork?
@khbaur Lets say if we can etch that pattern on pcb can we transfer it to kapton. If thats possible I think we can make something quickly.
How long does a printed circuit work?
At least 1 year as long as the printed sheet is not physically broken. As this is a kind of new technology, we have not yet conducted long-term endurance tests, but they worked more than 1 year. Rather than the circuit pattern, it is much more likely to happen that the printed sheets are physically broken as they are just paper. If you use printed papers in a wild environment, it would be better to laminate them.
I like the idea of an open source thread, especially one around home fabrication tech. I am subscribed to this thread as I do hope to get a 3D printer in the coming year, but right now I am focused on CNC machining. I have a Shapeoko 2 coming and will share any useful designs I come up with.
PS Big Chicago meet in a month! Trying to drum up attendance.
Hum. Not understanding even half an iota of the technical stuff on this thread, is there a way of printing the circuitry, then laying the driver membrane on the circuitry after the printing process, so it sticks to it? Avoids the heat problems, as far as I can tell.
Regarding magnets:
Is there any reason that they must be bar mag's?
Could a whole bunch of smaller round or square mags arranged in a grid be used?
I'm certain I saw a detailed explanation of how planar diaphragms interact with magnet assemblies, with diagrams, but I've been searching for this without success, and I can't remember the details.
Does anyone else remember the post or page I'm thinking of?