Either these are opening up a bit or I'm just acclimating to them. Soundstage is considerably wider than the Audeze Mobius. I still prefer these with a bit of V-shaped EQ at the far ends rather than flat. Keep in mind that I'm over the age of 50, so treble boost for my aging ears may not be what younger folks require. They're at a point where I have no complaints at this price point with respect to the audio quality... rubberized attached cable is still craptacular though.