Tgun5
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Sorry I was too vague with a different strokes statement. The real issue is that...........
There are a lot of variables in a store setting unless you take a lot of time to correct them. If you listened to a wall of woofers through a switcher, forget it. Add the variables of crossover setting, room placement, cables used, equipment used, the room itself, the gain setting, and what other speakers are in the room in close proximity to the mix. Dead speakers and woofers specifically amplify the ones that are being demonstrated as they act as passive drivers. A 10" sub with a 15" sub in close proximity could sound very bloaty with a 15" driver acting as a passive radiator.
Go to a store that has a wall of plasmas. You will most likely find the one that has the most profit to be the one they have tweaked. I’m not saying that this is true with woofers, but unless the salesman really wants to do a fair comparison, he will probably not take the time to set each and every woofer to the same settings. Then you would have to play the same music selections on each woofer. I owned a high-end store for 13 years. We had a room that was used only to bring equipment in one at a time to compare. It was a lot of work and you won’t find any stores that will do it today. I was a purist though and wanted my customers to be confident in their decision. Plus, it really wasn’t work when you enjoy it.
I can also tell you that when I was in Atlanta, I took my son to Tweeter to hear the Martin Logan Vantages. There was a wall of 4 Logan models among other choices that the salesman demonstrated with the same equipment. I wouldn’t have paid $1 for any of the speakers because they sounded just awful. I was able to compare them against each other though. Trouble is the best speaker in the house wouldn’t have been the Vantage because it was compromised. Too many speakers in the same room. Who knows what speaker wire, and a switcher? Give me a break. I know different though as the Vantage is an incredible speaker.
I have heard the PW2200 (owned it), the Seismic 10 (owned it) and the Servo 15 (in store). Using the very best interconnect and equipment, both of 2200 and Seismic were tight and controlled for music.
There are a lot of variables in a store setting unless you take a lot of time to correct them. If you listened to a wall of woofers through a switcher, forget it. Add the variables of crossover setting, room placement, cables used, equipment used, the room itself, the gain setting, and what other speakers are in the room in close proximity to the mix. Dead speakers and woofers specifically amplify the ones that are being demonstrated as they act as passive drivers. A 10" sub with a 15" sub in close proximity could sound very bloaty with a 15" driver acting as a passive radiator.
Go to a store that has a wall of plasmas. You will most likely find the one that has the most profit to be the one they have tweaked. I’m not saying that this is true with woofers, but unless the salesman really wants to do a fair comparison, he will probably not take the time to set each and every woofer to the same settings. Then you would have to play the same music selections on each woofer. I owned a high-end store for 13 years. We had a room that was used only to bring equipment in one at a time to compare. It was a lot of work and you won’t find any stores that will do it today. I was a purist though and wanted my customers to be confident in their decision. Plus, it really wasn’t work when you enjoy it.
I can also tell you that when I was in Atlanta, I took my son to Tweeter to hear the Martin Logan Vantages. There was a wall of 4 Logan models among other choices that the salesman demonstrated with the same equipment. I wouldn’t have paid $1 for any of the speakers because they sounded just awful. I was able to compare them against each other though. Trouble is the best speaker in the house wouldn’t have been the Vantage because it was compromised. Too many speakers in the same room. Who knows what speaker wire, and a switcher? Give me a break. I know different though as the Vantage is an incredible speaker.
I have heard the PW2200 (owned it), the Seismic 10 (owned it) and the Servo 15 (in store). Using the very best interconnect and equipment, both of 2200 and Seismic were tight and controlled for music.