[bobeau]

I have just purchased the M&D MW65 to replace my B&O P7...

It sounds fantastic connected to an iPhone with AAC. If you have the budget for it, I assure you you will not be sorry.

I'm considering these, but I have a few reservations based on research

- It seems like the fit is problematic for smaller heads. I'm a hat size 7/56cm head so on the smaller side...
- Call quality is supposed to be terrible (important for me as I'm a remote employee and spend like 10+ hours a week in meetings)
- Some reported connection issues
- Not firmware updatable so the above 2 issues have no chance of being fixed outside a hardware revision.

All that said, it does seem to be universal that these are tops in SQ, so they're not *total* dealbreakers (I have Airpods that work well enough on calls). I probably won't use them out and about so the fit has to be secure enough while stationary.

 

[nc8000]

I'm considering these, but I have a few reservations based on research

- It seems like the fit is problematic for smaller heads. I'm a hat size 7/56cm head so on the smaller side...
- Call quality is supposed to be terrible (important for me as I'm a remote employee and spend like 10+ hours a week in meetings)
- Some reported connection issues
- Not firmware updatable so the above 2 issues have no chance of being fixed outside a hardware revision.

All that said, it does seem to be universal that these are tops in SQ, so they're not *total* dealbreakers (I have Airpods that work well enough on calls). I probably won't use them out and about so the fit has to be secure enough while stationary.

They are fw updatable and I’ve had no connection issues. Don’t know about call quality, never use them for that.

 

[bobeau]

They are fw updatable and I’ve had no connection issues. Don’t know about call quality, never use them for that.

Are you sure? The manual nor reviews makes no mention of this. Where can I find info on that? If so I'm happy to put up with some niggles if M&D can fix down the road.

EDIT: I'm talking about the M&D MW65, not the WH1000xm3. Sorry I didn't quote an earlier part of the post that mentioned that.

 

[Double C]

I also work remote and use them daily for meetings. I personally think call quality is very good. And I have not heard any complains from people I am talking to.

 

[bobeau]

I also work remote and use them daily for meetings. I personally think call quality is very good. And I have not heard any complains from people I am talking to.

Are you talking about the M&D MW65? I was referring to those.

 

[nc8000]

Are you sure? The manual nor reviews makes no mention of this. Where can I find info on that? If so I'm happy to put up with some niggles if M&D can fix down the road.

EDIT: I'm talking about the M&D MW65, not the WH1000xm3. Sorry I didn't quote an earlier part of the post that mentioned that.

They are fw updated through the Sony app on iOS or Android devices and yes I’m sure, I’ve myself updated to latest fw when I got mine, I think there have been 2 or 3 fw releases. It is also mentioned in the manual

 

[Double C]

Are you talking about the M&D MW65? I was referring to those.

Referring to Sony's

 

[bobeau]

They are fw updated...

Again, I was referring to the M&D MW65 as you can see in the post of mine you quoted. It was discussed in the last page. But yes this thread is not for these so I'll refrain saying anything further unless the OP responds to my concerns.

 

[nc8000]

Again, I was referring to the M&D MW65 as you can see in the post of mine you quoted. It was discussed in the last page. But yes this thread is not for these so I'll refrain saying anything further unless the OP responds to my concerns.

Fine. I made my comment before you edited yours.

 

[bobeau]

Fine. I made my comment before you edited yours.

The first one yes, not the second. In any case I'm really not looking to derail this thread, sorry for not better quoting my OP.

 

[FYLegend]

I doubt it. Bose and Sony are able to come up with a chip that produces the best ANC performance, and they are not licensing it (selling chips that others companies can use). No other companies will come close to these two companies in terms of ANC performance. If a company like Qualcomm comes up with a competitive ANC chip, the market would be very competitive.

I don't mind if ANC is not as good, I'm just looking for a decent ANC + Bluetooth + Type C headphone. I've only seen Bluedio but people say they sound bad and have a shady reputation. Something like Edifier, Mixder Cowin or Taotronics but with Type C charging. Take the Takstar Pro 82 drivers or something...

 

[SilverEars]

I don't mind if ANC is not as good, I'm just looking for a decent ANC + Bluetooth + Type C headphone. I've only seen Bluedio but people say they sound bad and have a shady reputation. Something like Edifier, Mixder Cowin or Taotronics but with Type C charging. Take the Takstar Pro 82 drivers or something...

Get an older model Bose, QC25. Nevermind, you want wireless.

 

[Drewligarchy]

I'm considering these, but I have a few reservations based on research

- It seems like the fit is problematic for smaller heads. I'm a hat size 7/56cm head so on the smaller side...
- Call quality is supposed to be terrible (important for me as I'm a remote employee and spend like 10+ hours a week in meetings)
- Some reported connection issues
- Not firmware updatable so the above 2 issues have no chance of being fixed outside a hardware revision.

All that said, it does seem to be universal that these are tops in SQ, so they're not *total* dealbreakers (I have Airpods that work well enough on calls). I probably won't use them out and about so the fit has to be secure enough while stationary.

All valid concerns. I actually demoed them at Magnolia in Best Buy, so you could at least determine if the fit is good for you and if you like the sound signature if you have one near you.

I like the ability to make calls as well. I think call quality is ok, based on people I've called and asking their opinion. I have not tested when I am on the other end of the line. I could test that out for you if you'd like, but there may be better headsets for calls.

I have not had any connection issues. I typically commute through subways and busy spaces in NYC. With bluetooth headphones, I typically listen on an iPhone to Qobuz offline at 44/16 - which is then encoded into AAC. If you are using them at home, you won't have any issues.

They do have the ability to plug in a lighting, USB-C or standard 3.5MM cable and will fit most aftermarket ones. You could play around with cables that have a mic if you are not happy with the call quality via bluetooth.

 

[leo253]

Question...I'm going on vacation to Orlando in a couple days. I'm sure these aren't "water-proof," so I'm wondering if there's any risk of water from the high humidity climate damaging the electronics?

 

[Dougeefresh]

Unless you physically get them wet (pool, beach) the typical Florida humidity will not damage them. I used to live in Florida until 3 weeks ago and used them without issues.