[rlw6534]

I might try it on my A307 to confirm I get same, just that I only use the A307 wired for its sound sig rather than the TWS DAC/amp sig.
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Cool... it would be nice to know if you are seeing the same thing on your Sony.

 

[psikey]

Cool... it would be nice to know if you are seeing the same thing on your Sony.

Yep, same as you, so looks like the Sony BT audio preference setting is either LDAC 990 (Sound) or LDAC default (Connection) and doesn't show actual default bitrate, and overrides the BT Codec app config.

If Sony set to Connection, BT Codec app just shows 'default' in quality setting.

App works perfectly on my S23+ but looks like not on A307/A306 due to Sony having their own two BT quality options (best or adaptive), and no way of seeing if Adaptive is at 330, 660 or 990 as it goes.

Since getting my S23+ 256GB, a BTR7 and now also the XM5 I've rarely used my A307!

If I want top sound then my BTR7 USB connected to phone using 4.4mm balanced and UAPP app is best audio for me vs using the A307, and A307 is much, much slower to navigate and of course has its much smaller screen to work with. Small size/weight can obvious be an advantage of the Sony and fact it's not a phone with interruptions.

 

[rlw6534]

Yep, same as you, so looks like the Sony BT audio preference setting is either LDAC 990 (Sound) or LDAC default (Connection) and doesn't show actual default bitrate, and overrides the BT Codec app config.

If Sony set to Connection, BT Codec app just shows 'default' in quality setting.

App works perfectly on my S23+ but looks like not on A307/A306 due to Sony having their own two BT quality options (best or adaptive), and no way of seeing if Adaptive is at 330, 660 or 990 as it goes.

Since getting my S23+ 256GB, a BTR7 and now also the XM5 I've rarely used my A307!

Thanks for checking! I figured it was probably a Sony thing...

 

[MrWalkman]

Some amateurish comparison photos between the XM4s and the XM5s.

The infrared sensor port, not visible unless I use the flash:

A close up of the wind mesh:

 

[111MilesToGo]

I finally took the plunge and purchased a WF-1000XM5, owning an XM4 since last year. It was mainly the reports here plus a narrow selection of the ”professional“ reviews out there that persuaded me to invest. My main use case for TWSs is moving around inside and outside of the house with my iPhone, i.e. with AAC codec. Everything works out of the box, plus Headphone Connect app. Updated to firmware 2.0.1. Sometimes my use will be with my Cayin N8ii DAP, i.e. with LDAC. You are correct when you conclude from these statements that I am moving in the directions of giving priority to enjoying music over investigating gear, and giving some priority to simplicity.

No in-depth sound impressions yet, except for a ”not at all disappointed“ as of now. I am using Sennheiser IE Pro tips (M), as these are the only ones in my small collection with wax guards. The seal self-test easily yields an okay. (My XM4s have Final E.)

I need to ask one question though: My XM5s do not snap into place in the case as snappily and firmly as my XM4s do with their case. I yet have to compare my tips to the stock ones size-wise. Your experiences, please? Any problems with charging the earpieces in the case?

 

[psikey]

I finally took the plunge and purchased a WF-1000XM5, owning an XM4 since last year. It was mainly the reports here plus a narrow selection of the ”professional“ reviews out there that persuaded me to invest. My main use case for TWSs is moving around inside and outside of the house with my iPhone, i.e. with AAC codec. Everything works out of the box, plus Headphone Connect app. Updated to firmware 2.0.1. Sometimes my use will be with my Cayin N8ii DAP, i.e. with LDAC. You are correct when you conclude from these statements that I am moving in the directions of giving priority to enjoying music over investigating gear, and giving some priority to simplicity.

No in-depth sound impressions yet, except for a ”not at all disappointed“ as of now. I am using Sennheiser IE Pro tips (M), as these are the only ones in my small collection with wax guards. The seal self-test easily yields an okay. (My XM4s have Final E.)

I need to ask one question though: My XM5s do not snap into place in the case as snappily and firmly as my XM4s do with their case. I yet have to compare my tips to the stock ones size-wise. Your experiences, please? Any problems with charging the earpieces in the case?

Mine snap in strong and no charging issue. Can't say I consider it less magnetic than XM4 I had.

 

[joshnor713]

I finally took the plunge and purchased a WF-1000XM5, owning an XM4 since last year. It was mainly the reports here plus a narrow selection of the ”professional“ reviews out there that persuaded me to invest. My main use case for TWSs is moving around inside and outside of the house with my iPhone, i.e. with AAC codec. Everything works out of the box, plus Headphone Connect app. Updated to firmware 2.0.1. Sometimes my use will be with my Cayin N8ii DAP, i.e. with LDAC. You are correct when you conclude from these statements that I am moving in the directions of giving priority to enjoying music over investigating gear, and giving some priority to simplicity.

No in-depth sound impressions yet, except for a ”not at all disappointed“ as of now. I am using Sennheiser IE Pro tips (M), as these are the only ones in my small collection with wax guards. The seal self-test easily yields an okay. (My XM4s have Final E.)

I need to ask one question though: My XM5s do not snap into place in the case as snappily and firmly as my XM4s do with their case. I yet have to compare my tips to the stock ones size-wise. Your experiences, please? Any problems with charging the earpieces in the case?

Mine don't snap in as firmly as my XM4 did either, something that really bugs me about them.

 

[Zaroff]

Mine sporting the Zedna MAX snap perfectly, as with the Sony eartips.

 

[MrWalkman]

This is the "Alternative A2DP Driver" configuration window - this software provides LDAC support on Windows.

I was standing perfectly still, not moving my head up/down/left/right, nothing, at a distance of less than a meter away from my laptop. My laptop is put on a stand at my desk, on the right, and it's staying basically at head level. It has the Intel AX201 adapter, a Wi-Fi 6 and BT 5.2 card. The Wi-Fi was turned off, as I use an Ethernet cable.

If I set the bitrate fixed on 990 kbps, the audio is mostly fine. There is a little glitch every once in a while, most of the time it's fine though.

I then set the quality to 990 kbps preferred, but with the option to automatically reduce the quality if necessary to keep the connection stable. Here's 12 seconds of how it goes, check the bitrate:

It's interesting to notice how it sometimes go to 492 kbps, and not only to 660 kbps. So the buds may be a lot more stable on 660 kbps rather than on 990 kbps. Maybe with other devices it's better, though with the WH-1000XM5 I don't have any issue at all, so I'm not sure it's my laptop's fault

 

[newworld666]

I really enjoy the 1000XM5, after a few weeks I think they are the best TWS I ever owned for more than a decade (Apple, B&O, JVC, Samsung, Technics, Cambridge Audio, Soundcore, ...) tough there is still some room for improvement :
-> software which don' t allow to assign touch functions as we would like,
-> no android short-cuts to allow or disallow touching functions, ...
-> buds are still a bit too thick to be comfortable for side sleepers .. a bit larger buds with lower profile would have been better.

But, I am surprised by the quality of the foam ear tips which are, for my ears, really good, comfortable with an impressive passive noise cancelling (which makes ANC mostly useless for music)..
I even tried them with some IEMs like XBA-N3AP, Kiwi Ears Quintet and now I want to find some more of those tips, but they seems not really available anywhere in the world (only models for XM3/XM4).
Any idea where we can get them from Europe ? I am looking exclusively for those genuine Sony's models which are EP-NI1010L & EP-NI1010M and nothing else.

 

[111MilesToGo]

But, I am surprised by the quality of the foam ear tips which are, for my ears, really good, comfortable with an impressive passive noise cancelling (which makes ANC mostly useless for music)..
I even tried them with some IEMs like XBA-N3AP, Kiwi Ears Quintet and now I want to find some more of those tips, but they seems not really available anywhere in the world (only models for XM3/XM4).
Any idea where we can get them from Europe ? I am looking exclusively for those genuine Sony's models which are EP-NI1010L & EP-NI1010M and nothing else.

I‘m sure you will have checked already: Sony‘s German on-line store says ”new product, available soon“ for these. Forgive me for mentioning s.th. obvious.

 

[MrWalkman]

I‘m sure you will have checked already: Sony‘s German on-line store says ”new product, available soon“ for these. Forgive me for mentioning s.th. obvious.

https://www.e-earphone.jp/products/detail/1531922/

 

[Edon]

Hi, anyone compared them to AirPods Pro2 in terms of SQ?

 

[The1Signature]

Hi, anyone compared them to AirPods Pro2 in terms of SQ?

there are a lot of yt videos about it.

 

[krenzler]

ANC performance is very dependent on the fit and passive isolation you get - ANC doesn't perform the same regardless. Hence we get some saying that it's better than the WH-XM4/5 headphones while other saying worse than the predecessor WF-XM4. Keep this in mind please.