[Whitigir]

I have a pure silver cable currently from Beat Audio, and will be getting a SPC cable from Norne Audio (both of which will work with my incoming K10), I'm curious to test this as well and see for myself. Never really considered it would be much of a sound signature change, the main reason I got these was because they came with the balanced 3.5mm TRRS terminations, and had good wires (thickness, material).

SPC should have that most noticable harsher trebles and edgy sounds. I notice it, I think you will as well, and pure silver does not have those

 

[muscular]

  I'm also using the UM Mentors and am currently using the Ref Silver Litz from Ted's Headfood which I later had modified to a 3.5mm TRRS plug. I personally found it to have tightened up the bass a bit, made the top end a bit more present and after the plug was changed, I found the sound stage to have extended a bit as well. 

Not to say TRRS has no improvements, but its really minor. Many of the members here praised TRRS connection when they previously only had the stock cable. Most of the improvements they have heard, are perhaps 80% from the silver cables and 20% from the TRRS plug. But as with every cable discussion, i plead for the members here to discuss with discretion and respect. 

 

[Whitigir]

Not to say TRRS has no improvements, but its really minor. Many of the members here praised TRRS connection when they previously only had the stock cable. Most of the improvements they have heard, are perhaps 80% from the silver cables and 20% from the TRRS plug. But as with every cable discussion, i plead for the members here to discuss with discretion and respect. 

I agreed on the cables upgrade that can improve the sounds, but I disagree on the portions. To me it is 60%/40% and that is TRRS/silver improvements. Speaking from my experiments with stock cables re-terminate into TRRS jack and various cables materials .

Again, even copper TRRS cables would bring more air, and separations as improvements, being any more materials upgrades would bring even more.

 

[Sound Eq]

  guys can i ask a question, i want to consider buying the zx2 and connect to the mojo but i need your kind answers 
 
if i connect the zx2 to the mojo
 
1- does the eq work
2- does the eq in players like neutron work
 
i got into a talk with a fellow head-fier and he says no, but he also said no when he connects his ak dap to the mojo optically that his eq does not work, while when i connect my ak100ii to the mojo the eq works
 
kindly can anyone confirm if eq works with mojo

anymore feedback on this as i am 100% confirming my ak100ii is having a working eq with line out

 

[proedros]

  anymore feedback on this as i am 100% confirming my ak100ii is having a working eq with line out

 
you should ask this to the mojo thread as well , where people are bound to have bought mojo (and sold their zx2?)

i do not see many people here with mojo stacking up their zx2 (or at least this is the idea i get)

 

[Sound Eq]

well i think i got my answer and the answer is through lineout the zx2 does not have eq adjustment possible
 
on another note in the mojo thread they told me to ask in the daps thread

 

[nc8000]

well i think i got my answer and the answer is through lineout the zx2 does not have eq adjustment possible

on another note in the mojo thread they told me to ask in the daps thread

I would have thought that eq would work via line out but possibly not via digital out

 

[Sound Eq]

I would have thought that eq would work via line out but possibly not via digital out

well thats confusing now
 
other said the usb propriety would not support eq while optical like ak daps would
 
and my ak100ii does support eq when conected optically to my chord mojo

 

[nc8000]

well thats confusing now

other said the usb propriety would not support eq while optical like ak daps would

and my ak100ii does support eq when conected optically to my chord mojo

Lineout is analog, usb is digital

 

[Sound Eq]

Lineout is analog, usb is digital

that explains all and i am sorry for my nook question
 
so daps with optical line out support eq to other dacs

 

[Natronious]

@hykhleif
 
I can't comment at the moment in regards to eq, but to use the ZX2 as a transport, it must be by way of sending a digital signal, as the Mojo only accepts a digital input. Personally I recently acquired a Mojo, but have no plans to sell the ZX2, as this is a very good dap, with very good battery life. I was thinking to use the ZX2 as a transport, but the Sony digital cable, the WMC-NWH10 USB Conversion cable makes for quite a bulky setup. I purchased a cable off of Amazon:
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YWEHSQY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
 
This cable is billed as working with another dac/amp, the HA-2, but it doesn't work with the Sony. Another Headfier linked me a cable on Taobao, and I was able to purchase it using Google translate, but strangely, there was a lot of information which didn't translate. I did purchase it, and it came with free shipping, but I don't have full confidence that it will actually get all the way here (?).
 
I'm thinking that the ZX2 is not a great transport for the Mojo anyway, as sending a digital signal out kills the battery to an extraordinary extent, I think some members mentioned that they were getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 4.5 hours play time, so not really worth it to me for this purpose.
 
I was thinking to pick up a dx80, as these are getting up to 12 hours playback, and seems like it works well as a transport. I was thinking to use the optical connection.
 
I will say that I've found the UERR to be a GREAT match for the ZX2. This is a combination that I can find REAL satisfaction with. And this is compared to UERM, K10, ie800, and Angies, though, to be fair, the Angies have been out of the house for a while, and are due back in the next couple weeks...
 
I will happily hold onto the ZX2 indefinitely; it's a very good player for my purposes.

 

[Sound Eq]

Thanks for this elaborate explanation

 

[nc8000]

that explains all and i am sorry for my nook question

so daps with optical line out support eq to other dacs

I don't think you can say that, I suspect it will depend on the individual implementation for each dap if eq and other sound effects will work over a digital out (usb, coax, optical or other). It depends on if the digital stream is taken before or after the dsp stage

 

[proedros]

Thanks for this elaborate explanation

 
just curious , but why would you buy ZX2 just for Mojo transport ? if you have 1000$ to spare , why not buy a TOTL iem instead ?

plus, i don't think the (zx2+mojo) will be any better than your (ak+mojo) combo

the 2 strong points of ZX2 for me is its battery and its internal storage , i think that your existing mojo combo may even be better soundwise , plus you won't have the said volume cap problems frequently mentioned here 
 
i am sure there are better sounding daps than ZX2 out there , but i like ZX2 for the total package 
 
if i had a mojo and liked how it sounded with another dap , i would not go for ZX2 

btw , if you are so much into EQ , you may look for the Cowon P1 which is said to sound great and has tons of eq options 

plus its battery is in the mojo league (8-10 hours)

just my 2 cents.



 

 

[Sound Eq]

   
just curious , but why would you buy ZX2 just for Mojo transport ? if you have 1000$ to spare , why not buy a TOTL iem instead ?

plus, i don't think the (zx2+mojo) will be any better than your (ak+mojo) combo

the 2 strong points of ZX2 for me is its battery and its internal storage , i think that your existing mojo combo may even be better soundwise , plus you won't have the said volume cap problems frequently mentioned here 
 
i am sure there are better sounding daps than ZX2 out there , but i like ZX2 for the total package 
 
if i had a mojo and liked how it sounded with another dap , i would not go for ZX2 

btw , if you are so much into EQ , you may look for the Cowon P1 which is said to sound great and has tons of eq options 

plus its battery is in the mojo league (8-10 hours)

just my 2 cents.



 

guys i totally understand why my question be strange to many
 
but i want a dap that has more eq bands than what my ak100ii offers 
 
also eq is important to me, and since daps like ak100ii can have eq when connected to mojo then i will not make sense anymore for me to settle for less options than my ak100ii does
 
and why with mojo, well sometimes i like to use it with full size headphones and the mojo is more powerful than my ak100ii, i think the best dap that offers all i look for is the ak320