HelloHell
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I sent a request regarding the SN but he never gets back to me.
"Also the phones have a very late serial number (I can't remember off the top of my head, but I know it's 10xx), and the driver has no markings, which sounds consistent with the info from Mikhail."
cant believe the auction went over $3K...
i had asked the seller a few questions regarding things such as the serial # and the sound and here is his reply:
[size=10pt]"Hello, and thanks for the interest. I bought them with the driver already broken, so I do not know how it failed. The person I bought them from said he was selling them for his elderly father, so he did not really know anything about how it failed (in fact, he thought they were working - it was only when I tested them that we found out they weren't). When changing out the drivers I first replaced only the broken driver with a cd3000, because I had the same question you did - how would they compare to r10 drivers? So, I listened very carefully with high-quality mono recordings to determine if there were any subtle differences in either driver, and they sounded perfectly matched to me. I did ultimately replace both drivers with cd3000 drivers, however, just in case there were any subtle differences that I hadn't been able to discern. But, to my ears the drivers sounded identical. The pair has serial number 1095. Many thanks, Joe[/size]"
this is consistent with what he posted here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/545314/busted-driver-on-a-sony-r10-what-to-do/30#post_7493710
so basically is a CD3000 in an R10 shell?
i had asked the seller a few questions regarding things such as the serial # and the sound and here is his reply:
[size=10pt]"Hello, and thanks for the interest. I bought them with the driver already broken, so I do not know how it failed. The person I bought them from said he was selling them for his elderly father, so he did not really know anything about how it failed (in fact, he thought they were working - it was only when I tested them that we found out they weren't). When changing out the drivers I first replaced only the broken driver with a cd3000, because I had the same question you did - how would they compare to r10 drivers? So, I listened very carefully with high-quality mono recordings to determine if there were any subtle differences in either driver, and they sounded perfectly matched to me. I did ultimately replace both drivers with cd3000 drivers, however, just in case there were any subtle differences that I hadn't been able to discern. But, to my ears the drivers sounded identical. The pair has serial number 1095. Many thanks, Joe[/size]"
this is consistent with what he posted here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/545314/busted-driver-on-a-sony-r10-what-to-do/30#post_7493710
either way kinda makes it pointless since you're paying for the r10 style rather than the original drivers/sound
I once hook up my spare R10 drivers against a set of spare CD3000 drivers and the R10 drivers were more powerful sounding.
so you too put cd3k drivers in an r10 shell? how closely did it resemble an r10? was it closer in sound to a cd3k or r10, or was it entirely different to your ears?
i view the cd3k sonically as sort of a baby r10. do you share that perspective?
DG, please see the post i've quoted above yours. the guy who did this felt that the transplant sounded very similar to the r10 as far as he could tell (it'd be interesting to put them side by side with some full fledged r10s. this may turn out to be possible as the set may well have sold to a head-fier. if so hopefully it's to an honest party who won't try and scam them by passing them off as genuine r10s. now that i've posted the serial # it will a least allow astute folks to be aware of what this phone is).
there are many frankenphones (hybrids mixing different drivers and enclosures, +/- other mods) out there, done by both diyers as well as folks who derive income from it (such as headphile). things such as earpads and the enclosure can have a major impact on the sound of headphones, so this is not merely a cosmetically updated cd3000. it is possible that his claim of it being very close to an original r10 may not be so outlandish. there was a post made a few years back about an r10 with bad drivers having (joe) grado hp1000 drivers transplanted into it. that poster thought it was the most outstanding headphone he had ever heard. iirc he felt it combined the outstanding neutrality of the hp1000s with the lush spaciousness of the r10.
so you too put cd3k drivers in an r10 shell? how closely did it resemble an r10? was it closer in sound to a cd3k or r10, or was it entirely different to your ears?
i view the cd3k sonically as sort of a baby r10. do you share that perspective?
Yes, a very old thread but I know a manufacture that has the R10 and CD3000 and many, many others. He did dissection and said the drivers are the same but the sound from the DC3000 housing is inferior and to him, unlistenable.I once hook up my spare R10 drivers against a set of spare CD3000 drivers and the R10 drivers were more powerful sounding.