Firstly, I apologize for being another thread amongst a sea of "help me choose" threads - but I am pretty much a rookie. After a few months, several actually, of wading through, trying to save for the jh16's/J3A - and failing miserably at it, I've decided to go with a much more affordable (in comparison) alternative. Now, I've narrowed my two top tier choices to the subject - an IE8 or SM3v2 - but after sifting through both appreciation threads, and critique threads, I guess I'm looking for a bit of advice as to which to go through for my personal taste - I guess the two most important things are vocals, and that the headphone I pick is fun to listen to. I really like hearing detail, like noticing things I haven't heard in songs before - and like a bass whump to go with the songs that need it. I think by this description, from the pro SM3 crowd it delivers all of this - however I am a bit worried about the "veil" that everyone keeps talking about - having listened to unamped HD650's, and amped hd650's and finally balanced hd650's to get a sound that was desirable, I don't think I'm big on putting up with a huge sonic veil. I was also wondering if the custom cables did much for the IE8's - haven't been able to find many reviews on the TWAG stuff, but from what I can tell Craig is a great guy and does great work. Just looking for a bit of guidance, (Musical tastes are all over the board, instrumental, power/pop punk, indie rock, hip hop, folk, etc) Thanks in advance, Phoosh.