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Dextor Morgan,
Perhaps you should re-read your earlier post again.
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Also, I again urge civility and respect on this thread, guys. I understand that passions are running high on all sides, but insulting and yelling at each other is counterproductive and only serves to derail any legitimate attempts to move forward with investigating/addressing this problem (see above).
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Guilty as charged
. I meant it when I said that. But I'm only human like everyone else (so much for infallibility) - I felt insulted and I reacted emotionally. I still urge civility and respect as standards, though I don't always live up to them. I regret being so hostile to you Spyro, but I still stand by the
content of my statements...
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Originally Posted by Spyro /img/forum/go_quote.gif
What the hell are you talking about? You don't think they have gone through an exhaustive list of trouble shooting long before this thread ever started?? If you want to help out, why don't you capture a test tube full of the vile filth that is deteriorating your cables and send it in to them for a lab analysis??
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My goal was not to better inform Shure. Obviously they've got the numbers and research on their end. My goal was to increase consumer awareness (including my own!) on the extent of this problem, how its being dealt with on their end, and how we can better deal with it on our end. You state that the last 6 pages have been useless, but I'll direct your attention to 4 separate points of information that were discussed in those pages:
1) Protocol for replacement [ie. will replacements have the new cable? - yes, if you live in the USA, but this isn't guaranteed for customers overseas]
2) How to take the manufacture number on the plug and convert this into a date to see when your cable was made [first 3 digits = day of year, last digit = year]
3) How to identify whether or not your cable is old or new [answer unknown, but an absolutely valid question]
4) The replacement model cable looks identical to the older version. The newer version was not merely thickened but the compound was changed, contrary to a Head-Fi rumor.
For you to come on and say that we should be blasted for pursuing these points, to call the last 6 pages a waste, is thread crapping. You're essentially invalidating the thread and the honest efforts of its participants by declaring the discussion pointless. Let's review the definition and some examples, as defined by a random search on google:
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Thread Crapping
"Thread Crapping" occurs when a person comes into a thread and posts something contrary to the spirit/intent of the thread, often derailing the discussion or turning it into an argument.
For example, coming into a thread about "The Greatest Beatles Album" and posting "The Beatles were overrated" is a thread crap. Another example: In a thread titled "I love my new Apple Macintosh!", someone posting "PCs are better and cheaper" is a thread crap.
If you feel the need to turn a discussion into a debate, start a new thread instead.
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You come on here and basically say, "This is stupid" - what's the point in doing that? If the thread doesn't interest you, there are plenty of others out there. If you don't have something nice to say...
I did re-read the thread and will grant you that Shure has put up with a lot from several individuals to such an extent that "witch hunt" does come to mind. But
despite this, there has been a relevant discussion going on and new information surfacing throughout. That's why I urged civility and respect. I didn't want Shure to say, "Screw it, we're done trying to answer questions because we don't have to put up with being assaulted like this." Ah, but they didn't, to their
enormous credit.
I honestly believe that this thread (all 9 of its pages) have contributed more knowledge about this cable problem/solution to the public domain than was previously available.
