[Filippo13]

If you are on the budget Audirect Hilidac Beam 2 has mqa support now. Not sure how it sounds, but by measurements via balanced output it should be sufficient to drive even some of the headphones. It doesn't have bluetooth, but if direct connection with phone is not a big hassle, you can try it out.

I know this item, great but I prefer a Bluetooth version. I need it for sport and work also. But for moment only big brand like hiby or fiio are able to purpose dap/dac Bluetooth AND mqa also. I will wait for order one of this.
I would like to try a mqa certified to see the real difference between a version non mqa. I not sure about the real difference between them.

 

[ClieOS]

I know this item, great but I prefer a Bluetooth version. I need it for sport and work also. But for moment only big brand like hiby or fiio are able to purpose dap/dac Bluetooth AND mqa also. I will wait for order one of this.
I would like to try a mqa certified to see the real difference between a version non mqa. I not sure about the real difference between them.

Note as I have said before, MQA doesn't work over Bluetooth as the two are technically incompatible with each other.

 

[johnchpark]

Has anyone figured out how to update the Shanling UP4 to v1.2.3 to use with the mobile App?
I tried following the instructions, but my UP4 doesn't seem to behave the way the instructions are saying.

 

[Shanling]

Has anyone figured out how to update the Shanling UP4 to v1.2.3 to use with the mobile App?
I tried following the instructions, but my UP4 doesn't seem to behave the way the instructions are saying.

Send me PM and we can try to check where can be problem.

 

[Hung0702]

Really great to see firmware updates and the controller app. Android doesn't force codecs properly so it's nice that we can force AptX HD over LDAC when we need more stability than theoretical quality.

Can Shanling confirm that passthrough power as a USB DAC will not be possible? To clarify, will future firmwares allow the UP2 to rely only on USB power and essentially ignore the battery (neither battery usage nor battery charging)? Is this a hardware limitation or a design choice?

I understand that it would be cumbersome/awkward for less tech savvy users to toggle passthrough between charging mode, but I would like to start using the UP2 as a dedicated USB DAC.

 

[yancore]

Hiii Teams @Shanling & Friends... I want to ask which bit rate is between 24-bit & 32-bit & max ohm impedance what is between UP2 & UP4, and is it true that up4 can run 300 ohm impedance in detail ???

And what about the difference between 50 ohms and 300 ohms and a maximum of 600 ohms ???

Let music lovers & connoisseurs not be curious among other large premium class competitors ... Because what I know, I prefer the Shanling product over the Fiio Brand, Shanling is more practical, and has longer flying hours (Seeing its history in the 1988 era, while the Fiio in the 2007 era) ... That's what makes my heart prefer the Shanling Brand over Other competitors ... Or similarly with business war between heavyweight competitors, there is still one country in different regions, namely between LG vs. Samsung ...

Since today I plan to buy Shanling UP4, and sell Shanling UP2 before ... Is the future Shanling can implement a kind of mini dac Amplifier as a ricever / successor up4 generation (Shanling Up6), which can run a maximum of 600 Ohm branches at a more economical price / price equivalent to up4 ... At least a class of economical price, can be comparable to other high-end jumbo, which exceeds prices beyond common sense (High prices that don't make sense) ... Please respond positively ... Happy running Eid Mubarak for everyone without exception ...

 

[ClieOS]

Really great to see firmware updates and the controller app. Android doesn't force codecs properly so it's nice that we can force AptX HD over LDAC when we need more stability than theoretical quality.

If you lower your smartphone LDAC setting to 'best effort' (or 660kbps and less, depends on how your smartphone setting is), then it should give pretty much the same stability as apt-HD, which is also running mostly on 660kbps.

Hiii Teams @Shanling & Friends... I want to ask which bit rate is between 24-bit & 32-bit & max ohm impedance what is between UP2 & UP4, and is it true that up4 can run 300 ohm impedance in detail ???

And what about the difference between 50 ohms and 300 ohms and a maximum of 600 ohms ???
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Headphone Impedance doesn't work that way. You also need to consider the sensitivity of the headphone with the impedance to determine whether any particular headphone can be properly powered or not. Also, having enough power to make it loud enough and having enough power to make it sounds good are not the same thing.

 

[yancore]

Headphone Impedance doesn't work that way. You also need to consider the sensitivity of the headphone with the impedance to determine whether any particular headphone can be properly powered or not. Also, having enough power to make it loud enough and having enough power to make it sounds good are not the same thing.
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Thanks for the answer Guys ... Honestly, sometimes that makes me curious because every time there is a recent update some products do not include the product specifications in detail (Maybe because of business competition issues) into a marketing trick there are plus-mines to market these products ... And from various reviews also sometimes it is indeed incomplete & inaccurate, to compare between rival products ... Since I'm also relatively new in the world of audio (Newbie) ... And if I may ask again, does Up2 & Up4 support 256 dsd & And where does the comparison between UP4 and BTR5 sound in the clarity & detail of all sounds (which each human ear has different taste) / Is there is almost no difference between the two between UP4 & BTR5 ??? Thank you in advance...

 

[Shanling]

Can Shanling confirm that passthrough power as a USB DAC will not be possible? To clarify, will future firmwares allow the UP2 to rely only on USB power and essentially ignore the battery (neither battery usage nor battery charging)? Is this a hardware limitation or a design choice?

I understand that it would be cumbersome/awkward for less tech savvy users to toggle passthrough between charging mode, but I would like to start using the UP2 as a dedicated USB DAC.

Such function was discussed before with our software team, but right now we have no update about it.

Hiii Teams @Shanling & Friends... I want to ask which bit rate is between 24-bit & 32-bit & max ohm impedance what is between UP2 & UP4, and is it true that up4 can run 300 ohm impedance in detail ???
Since today I plan to buy Shanling UP4, and sell Shanling UP2 before ... Is the future Shanling can implement a kind of mini dac Amplifier as a ricever / successor up4 generation (Shanling Up6), which can run a maximum of 600 Ohm branches at a more economical price / price equivalent to up4 ... At least a class of economical price, can be comparable to other high-end jumbo, which exceeds prices beyond common sense (High prices that don't make sense) ... Please respond positively ... Happy running Eid Mubarak for everyone without exception ...

Both UP2 and UP4 have same support of BT codecs, so both run at max 24/96 with LDAC or LHDC. There is no BT codec supporting 32bit. And on USB DAC side, they are limited to 16/48. No DSD support at all.

While UP4 have more power than UP2, I don't think I would recommend it to 300 ohm headphones (taking Sennheiser HD600 as the standard example). I don't think such power can be achieved while keeping similar size to current small Bluetooth Receivers. You would need device significantly bigger.

 

[llysender]

Many thanks to Franke over that in ear fidelity for helping me troubleshoot my issues with the UP4.

If its possible do change it that the red led shows when charging and the led shows when you press the scroll wheel when RGB is turned off next update pls. Well red led when charging is the important one. I thought my UP4 suddenly stopped working and stopped charging when no lights were showing.

 

[Shanling]

Many thanks to Franke over that in ear fidelity for helping me troubleshoot my issues with the UP4.

If its possible do change it that the red led shows when charging and the led shows when you press the scroll wheel when RGB is turned off next update pls. Well red led when charging is the important one. I thought my UP4 suddenly stopped working and stopped charging when no lights were showing.

I had talk about it with software team, planning some adjustments.

 

[BenF]

I tried the UP2 is the UP4 better sound wise or more about the features?

Sound Quality wise UP2 is actually better (IMHO) - UP4 sound warmer with a slight veil.

 

[llysender]

Sound Quality wise UP2 is actually better (IMHO) - UP4 sound warmer with a slight veil.

Oh does the UP2 sound similar to the M0? I like UP4 mic but am kind of annoyed by the warm sig. Its fixed with eq so i stuck with with it. I wont say it has a viel as the detail ia good imo.

 

[yorosello]

Oh does the UP2 sound similar to the M0? I like UP4 mic but am kind of annoyed by the warm sig. Its fixed with eq so i stuck with with it. I wont say it has a viel as the detail ia good imo.

Iirc, they stated that they use the same dac as M0 & sound similar on their promotional posters but i can be wrong

 

[yancore]

Both UP2 and UP4 have same support of BT codecs, so both run at max 24/96 with LDAC or LHDC. There is no BT codec supporting 32bit. And on USB DAC side, they are limited to 16/48. No DSD support at all.

While UP4 have more power than UP2, I don't think I would recommend it to 300 ohm headphones (taking Sennheiser HD600 as the standard example). I don't think such power can be achieved while keeping similar size to current small Bluetooth Receivers. You would need device significantly bigger.

Thank you for the answer Guys ... I am very happy & satisfied, it turns out @Shanling can still be honest ... It means that advertised like the Competitors next door, it seems that only a small portion looks more, even though in terms of features the same (What distinguishes from just practical ways of using it) ... Like a Batman trap (But anyway), what I learned first is the history of its founder first (More experience flying hours), rather than spending a lot of money for a familiar brand, the reality remains the same in terms of do business ...