[IEManiac]

Is it possible for Shanling up4 to work as a DAC for TWS earbuds? I have got Galaxy Buds and would like to use them with Shanling in order to improve the sound.

No.

 

[Shanling]

Hi, tell me which standard of balanced output is used on UP4

We use industry standard pinout on 2.5mm balanced, so you can follow the pinout in @ClieOS thread.

If you want to use your Sony headphones with balanced output of UP4, you either need adapter from 2.5mm to the 4.4mm that comes with the headphones or get new balanced 2.5mm cable(that will have Sony's 3.5 trrs on other end).

Hi folks,

Is there any use of pairing shanling up4 with Iphone iOS ? I think it supports only AAC and I'm mainly listening through streaming services which goes at 320kbs.
I see a significant difference between iphone and iphone/dac/amp combo, just cant be bothered with all that cable mess in my pockets. However I do not see any point of using up4 if bluetooth connection will be bottleneck here and I'll be stuck with similar quality as directly from phone. Not able to find any info and everywhere it's mainly advised for LDAC use

When using low quality 320kbs streaming, AAC should have no significant impact on the audio quality.

Is it possible for Shanling up4 to work as a DAC for TWS earbuds? I have got Galaxy Buds and would like to use them with Shanling in order to improve the sound.

Firstly, UP2/UP4 are only working as Bluetooth receivers, they can't be connected to bluetooth headphones.

Secondly, when you use TWS, all DAC processes are done directly in TWS, there is no way how to use external DAC with them.

 

[IEManiac]

What, you mean I can't Daisy-chain five of these to get a five fold increase in SQ?

That's a rhetorical question of exasperation at the original query.

 

[Shanling]

What, you mean I can't Daisy-chain five of these to get a five fold increase in SQ?

That's a rhetorical question of exasperation at the original query.

Bluetooth headphones and codecs are still little bit mystery for many customers, so it's always best to give little bit more detailed explanation.

 

[Shanling]

Shanling Controller app for UP2 & UP4 is now available for iOS devices!

Search for "Shanling controller" in App store
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/shanling-controller/id1505751654?l=en

We also released updated app for Android, update is now available in Play Store

Make sure UP2 & UP4 have latest firmware installed
http://en.shanling.com/article-CompanionApp.html

 

[hakunamakaka]

Shanling Controller app for UP2 & UP4 is now available for iOS devices!

Search for "Shanling controller" in App store
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/shanling-controller/id1505751654?l=en

We also released updated app for Android, update is now available in Play Store

Make sure UP2 & UP4 have latest firmware installed
http://en.shanling.com/article-CompanionApp.html

Nice, let’s see once up4 will arrive. Will test if there is any SQ differences using stream services between iphones AAC and Ldac

 

[lionxsound]

Anyone know if it is it possible to connect up4 with smartphone using usb type c to usb type c cable, to make it work as DAC?

 

[Shanling]

Anyone know if it is it possible to connect up4 with smartphone using usb type c to usb type c cable, to make it work as DAC?

If the smartphone support such connectivity, then UP4 can be used with ti as USB DAC.

 

[yancore]

Hiii Teams @Shanling is it possible & able to full pure theory update the firmware in the easiest & most simple way in shanling applications with devices especially receivers such as UP2 or UP4 without having to use the PC at all for the future (Apart & free from the PC) ???

 

[ClieOS]

If the smartphone support such connectivity, then UP4 can be used with ti as USB DAC.

As I recalled from my earlier testing, UP4 will not go into USB DAC mode by using Type-C to Type-C cable to my XPeria 5 (*which does support USB DAC, as it has no 3.5mm socket, besides I also has UAPP installed). The only way UP4's USB DAC mode can be triggered is to connect a small USB hub to my smartphone first, then connect UP4 to the USB hub to get it to act as an USB DAC. Seems to me there is some weird power-related protocol that needs to be there (which USB hub provides) in order for USB DAC function to work.

 

[Speedfight]

As I recalled from my earlier testing, UP4 will not go into USB DAC mode by using Type-C to Type-C cable to my XPeria 5 (*which does support USB DAC, as it has no 3.5mm socket, besides I also has UAPP installed). The only way UP4's USB DAC mode can be triggered is to connect a small USB hub to my smartphone first, then connect UP4 to the USB hub to get it to act as an USB DAC. Seems to me there is some weird power-related protocol that needs to be there (which USB hub provides) in order for USB DAC function to work.

This cable works for me:
€ 13,09 | Lightning Naar Type-C Otg Kabel Voor Shanling M2X M5s Up4 M0, Xd-05 Plus, NX4 Ds, fiio BTR5 3 Iphone 11 Xs Max, Xr, Xs 8Plus, Ipad Pro
https://a.aliexpress.com/_B0U2dQ

 

[ClieOS]

This cable works for me:
€ 13,09 | Lightning Naar Type-C Otg Kabel Voor Shanling M2X M5s Up4 M0, Xd-05 Plus, NX4 Ds, fiio BTR5 3 Iphone 11 Xs Max, Xr, Xs 8Plus, Ipad Pro
https://a.aliexpress.com/_B0U2dQ

Thanks, but Lightning-to-Type-C and Type-C-to-Type-C doesn't work the same way. Lightning cable has an extra chip that is used to trigger the iDevice OTG mode (*kinda like a USB hub in itself). Type-C cable doesn't have / need that chip.

 

[Speedfight]

Thanks, but Lightning-to-Type-C and Type-C-to-Type-C doesn't work the same way. Lightning cable has an extra chip that is used to trigger the iDevice OTG mode (*kinda like a USB hub in itself). Type-C cable doesn't have / need that chip.

I’m sorry, posted the wrong one. This is the right one:
€ 11,13 | Dd TC05 Type-C Om Type-C Audio Gegevens Decoderen Kabel Voor Fiio K3/BTR1K/M9 /M6/M11/M5
https://a.aliexpress.com/_BSfLDW

 

[ClieOS]

I’m sorry, posted the wrong one. This is the right one:
€ 11,13 | Dd TC05 Type-C Om Type-C Audio Gegevens Decoderen Kabel Voor Fiio K3/BTR1K/M9 /M6/M11/M5
https://a.aliexpress.com/_BSfLDW

I'll check it out , thanks.

 

[Shanling]

As I recalled from my earlier testing, UP4 will not go into USB DAC mode by using Type-C to Type-C cable to my XPeria 5 (*which does support USB DAC, as it has no 3.5mm socket, besides I also has UAPP installed). The only way UP4's USB DAC mode can be triggered is to connect a small USB hub to my smartphone first, then connect UP4 to the USB hub to get it to act as an USB DAC. Seems to me there is some weird power-related protocol that needs to be there (which USB hub provides) in order for USB DAC function to work.

I tested it with some Meizu smartphone with QQ Music, using simple USB-C to USB-A adapter and stock USB cable, worked fine without any special needs.

When you connect UP4 to your Xperia, does the LED at least light up red?