Shanling M0 - Smallest Hi-Res Portable Player - New Firmware V3.6
Mar 30, 2018 at 2:11 PM Post #196 of 6,418
Introducing Shanling M0



Main features:

MSRP 99 USD

Dimension 45 x 40 x 13.5 mm, 38% smaller than M1

Weight just 38g

1.54 inch touch screen

ESS ES9218p audo chip

15 hour battery life, 30 day deep sleep mode, 630 mAH battery

Micro SD card up to 512 GB, no onboard memory

Bidirectional USB-C connector (M0 can serve as USB DAC with PC, also as USB transport for other DACs)

aptX and LDAC support

Two way bluetooth ( in receiver mode only SBC and LDAC codec)

Support DSD(64 native, 128 D2P) and PCM up to 32/384

80 mW into 32 ohm

Output impedance 0.16 ohm​

Go to second post for detailed specification

Available end of april/early may

Brand new MTouch OS, developed by Shanling



Cases


a straightforward question; Can i enjoy my TIDAL account on M0?
 
Mar 30, 2018 at 6:46 PM Post #199 of 6,418
A device like this (with limited hardware buttons) would really benefit from in-line remote control support.

There are two control standards - one for iOS devices, and one for Android devices.
I've got some 3.5mm TRRS > MMCX cables, with Volume & Audio Controls, that have a mode switch, so they can work with either type of device. And, I have some VE Monk+ earbuds, that work to control Volume & Audio on my Android phone (Nexus 5). Neither cable will control the Volume on my Android Tablet (Nexus 7 (2013)).

People who have earphones from their iOS or Android device, will want the M0 to work with their cable.
I suspect that it's probably free* to implement the Android standard, but I wonder whether Apple would require licensing to implement the iOS standard?

*When I say free, I mean that you don't have to pay licensing fees - but there is a cost to implement wired remote control, because an Analog-to-Digital Converter (or discrete voltage window comparators and DIO pins on the controller chip) would be required, to detect the different voltages that indicate the Play/Pause and Volume buttons have been pressed.

Another alternative is to use a quality Bluetooth Receiver, that has the controls on it, since it can send the control signals back to the DAP - and this would only require a firmware change.
I've got a couple of Bluetooth Receivers that can control all of my DAPs in this way - and the only DAP of mine that has Play/Pause (but not Volume) in-line control capability, is my Cayin N3 (Supports for CTIA standard).
 
Mar 30, 2018 at 7:13 PM Post #200 of 6,418
Another alternative is to use a quality Bluetooth Receiver, that has the controls on it, since it can send the control signals back to the DAP - and this would only require a firmware change.
I've got a couple of Bluetooth Receivers that can control all of my DAPs in this way...

True, but that would mean carrying a separate BT device, just to act as a remote, no? The major appeal (to me) of the M0 is how ultra portable it is.
There are situations where all I'd want to be carrying are some headphones and the M0, and in those situations cable-remote functionality would be a huge bonus.
 
Mar 31, 2018 at 12:50 AM Post #201 of 6,418
True, but that would mean carrying a separate BT device, just to act as a remote, no? The major appeal (to me) of the M0 is how ultra portable it is.
There are situations where all I'd want to be carrying are some headphones and the M0, and in those situations cable-remote functionality would be a huge bonus.

There might be a simpler solution for you guys, one that wouldn't really affect the portability of the M0. Something like the Fiio RM1 remote might work really well for this. This wouldn't be as ideal as having controls directly on the device (and does require a constant BT connection), but you could just use some 3M dual lock and stick the RM1 to the back of the M0
 
Mar 31, 2018 at 4:05 AM Post #202 of 6,418
There might be a simpler solution for you guys, one that wouldn't really affect the portability of the M0. Something like the Fiio RM1 remote might work really well for this. This wouldn't be as ideal as having controls directly on the device (and does require a constant BT connection), but you could just use some 3M dual lock and stick the RM1 to the back of the M0
I think the original question had to do with controlling the M0 while it is in the pocket... If RM1 is glued to its back - that defeats the purpose of "control while in the pocket" :wink:
 
Mar 31, 2018 at 6:15 AM Post #203 of 6,418
I think the original question had to do with controlling the M0 while it is in the pocket... If RM1 is glued to its back - that defeats the purpose of "control while in the pocket" :wink:

Ah right, didn't see that part. Yeah, that wouldn't really work then.
 
Mar 31, 2018 at 7:39 AM Post #204 of 6,418
I love the new wheel-design. Would that be something for M1 MkIi, M2s MkIi, M3s MkII in the future?

Very likely same or similar button will be used on future models.


audio_flinger shows it. 44/16 isn't directly supported by the chip on the LG phones. 44/24 is, but not 44/16.
I'm wondering if you've noticed this problem and have found a similar work-around?

Can you please provide me with some link to where was this problem discussed more in depth? I'm still doubtful why would be DAC itself re-sampling some data.

The best way would be to have an option on the settings menu to assign single, double and maybe triple click on the wheel to play/pause, forward etc

Single click is to wake up device. So far we didn't feel need to implement triple click, but everything is possible.

Where will it available online with global shipping? Looks quite interesting, especially the two way Bluetooth connection

Hoping to get it to dealers by end of April.

a straightforward question; Can i enjoy my TIDAL account on M0?

Since it doesn't have Wi-fi, neither system support for Tidal, then no. But you can stream tidal from your phone to M0 if you wish so, either over Bluetooth or in some cases over USB.

A device like this (with limited hardware buttons) would really benefit from in-line remote control support.

Unfortunately not enough internal space to add needed hardware for in-line remote.
 
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Mar 31, 2018 at 8:40 AM Post #206 of 6,418
Wow, a new generation of Sansa clip :)
Really interesting, I'm about buying a Sabre smartphone (Gigaset Me) and now thinking if this one could sound on the same level I definitely would buy it.

ps: Hello Head-fi, my first post :)
Let me be the first to say:
Welcome to Head-Fi, and sorry for your wallet :wink:
 
Mar 31, 2018 at 10:20 AM Post #210 of 6,418
As I am contemplating about upgrading to M3s shall I wait for MkII as the M3s is already some months on the market, so I assume new version will come soon....

Definitely no replacement of M3s this year.

Very interesting device! Can I assume digital output via USB will work with Chord Hugo 2 and RME ADI-2 Pro?

We are testing with Mojo and it works nicely. Can try for you pairing with Hugo 2 next weekend at Canjam, but I assume it will work flawlessly. Not sure if I would be able to test RME.
 
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