[fish1050]

It works without problems with latest iPhones using AAC codec.



Thanks, will see if we can replicate this problem with any of our BT headphones.



1. We are discussing some changes to UI.
2. Not planning to adding such function of wheel turns changing tracks.
3. Will see if I can talk with them about adding some other time settings.
4. Currently there is no way how to rename playlists.
5. This seems like something that would take significant work, yet would be used by very limited amount of users. So unfortunately no.



ES9218P is combined SoC, signal always goes through its amplifier stage.

Of course you can use it with external amplifier, without any problems.

So the UI changes being discussed, are they changes to the existing UI or will it involve porting MTouch 2.0 elements into the M0 as you mentioned several months ago?

 

[fogma]

4. Currently there is no way how to rename playlists.

Even from PC changing text in certain file ?

 

[endgame4]

Even from PC changing text in certain file ?

You cannot access the internal playlists over USB, only the contents of the SD card.

 

[mathi8vadhanan]

All-BA, hybrid or single DD - this thing drives them all plenty. No hissing even with the sensitive DM6 (It hisses with Mojo). Pretty amazing at such a low price point.

 

[salla45]

Hi, I am mightily confused as to what settings I should use on my galaxy note 8 to optimise connection with the M0.

Im quite keen on using the LDAC (high quality) mode on the M0, and that's fine, it seems to lock on to the Note 8 ok, showing LDAC on the M0 screen, but then I have loads of Bluetooth settings withing the developer options including:

AVRCP Version (default setting 1.4, is selected, but there are 1.5 and 1.6 also available)
Sample rate (it's set to default - ie system selection, but is showing 96khz when the popup closes)
Bits per sample(it's set to default - ie system selection, but is showing 32bits when the popup closes)
and finally
Bluetooth Audio LDAC codec playback quality - set to Best Effort (adaptive bit rate).

Any pointers to optimising this???

cheers!

 

[Shanling]

Even from PC changing text in certain file ?

Playlists are stored in internal memory of M0, you can't reach them in standard USB mode.

Hi, I am mightily confused as to what settings I should use on my galaxy note 8 to optimise connection with the M0.

Im quite keen on using the LDAC (high quality) mode on the M0, and that's fine, it seems to lock on to the Note 8 ok, showing LDAC on the M0 screen, but then I have loads of Bluetooth settings withing the developer options including:

AVRCP Version (default setting 1.4, is selected, but there are 1.5 and 1.6 also available)
Sample rate (it's set to default - ie system selection, but is showing 96khz when the popup closes)
Bits per sample(it's set to default - ie system selection, but is showing 32bits when the popup closes)
and finally
Bluetooth Audio LDAC codec playback quality - set to Best Effort (adaptive bit rate).

Any pointers to optimising this???

cheers!

Main thing, if you want to use LDAC in high quality, the LDAC is core setting you need set right. Rest is automatic set up and shouldn't have too big impact.
I'm not sure what exactly is "Best Effort" in mind of Samsung. On my Huawei, Adaptive bitrate means it changes between three modes of LDAC, 330/660/990, switching to lower quality to keep connection. There should be something like "sound quality preferred", that will force 990 quality at all time.

 

[salla45]

Playlists are stored in internal memory of M0, you can't reach them in standard USB mode.



Main thing, if you want to use LDAC in high quality, the LDAC is core setting you need set right. Rest is automatic set up and shouldn't have too big impact.
I'm not sure what exactly is "Best Effort" in mind of Samsung. On my Huawei, Adaptive bitrate means it changes between three modes of LDAC, 330/660/990, switching to lower quality to keep connection. There should be something like "sound quality preferred", that will force 990 quality at all time.

thanks. One thing i notice now is that the settings seem to change irrespective of what I physically set them to. Maybe the sending device is what dictates the setting on the recipient device? So, these settings in the phone are maybe only for sending?

 

[Rodnix]

Hello All,

I bought the M0 after much deliberation. I have the moto z2 force... Which incidentally does not have the headphone jack.

I've just begun exploring into the world of IEMs and quality audio. I've wanted a suitable replacement to that usb-c/3.5mm leach.

The M0 does quite a bit of what I want and more. But, the M0 is not a 100% replacement to the dongle.

• I still can't make phone calls.
• I can't use the inline controls
• I can't navigate using wheel between streaming audio

What I like is that

• I can use it as a bt interface for my old lsr 305s
• I can load flac songs on the dap and play them directly (which I use quite a bit. And won't drain your phones battery)

I would still very much like to make phone calls via m0. Is there a plan to make this happen?

 

[mathi8vadhanan]

I would still very much like to make phone calls via m0. Is there a plan to make this happen?

No, M0 does not contain the necessary hardware to receive mic input. You need the radsone ES100 for that, but you lose DAP capabilities.

 

[fogma]

I still can't make phone calls.

thanks dude. you made my day!

 

[Blazer39]

I would still very much like to make phone calls via m0. Is there a plan to make this happen?

you must be new to this friend, there isn't any DAP out there that make phone calls...including 4000$+ DAPs
so your expecting too much from a 99$ device

 

[salla45]

I would still very much like to make phone calls via m0. Is there a plan to make this happen?

Do you mean you would like a DAP/Bluetooth transmitter/receiver with a microphone, to allow you to use it as sort of Bluetooth interface? I have a couple of those... The XB10 by Astell & Kern (APTX-HD) and a little clip on thing by Samsung (APTX). They're not true DACs nor DAPs though...

 

[crabdog]

Hi all,
Just bought an M0 (coming from a previous M1). Love the thing. Seems there's still some issues with the m3u playlists when the song has special characters in the metadata.Saw previous comments that you're still working on both things so I don't care much.

Example: In the below file the M0 only shows until song 3 (releaser). As if the playlist only included those 3 songs. FW: 2.3 so it's on the latest update.
M1 can handle it okay (no problems whatsoever with this same playlist), and even when it can't handle it, shows as a file that can't play or some errors in the name and skips it.


Also, felt that the leather case would benefit from a lanyard attachment so I modded mine. Even made me a leather Shanling lanyard from an old elastic lanyard I had around. Ended up all super solid and secure (Don't wan't to drop this little guy).
Pictures below.

Beautiful job on the case! That is some very nice modding!

 

[DBaldock9]

Hello All,

I bought the M0 after much deliberation. I have the moto z2 force... Which incidentally does not have the headphone jack.

I've just begun exploring into the world of IEMs and quality audio. I've wanted a suitable replacement to that usb-c/3.5mm leach.

The M0 does quite a bit of what I want and more. But, the M0 is not a 100% replacement to the dongle.

• I still can't make phone calls.
• I can't use the inline controls
• I can't navigate using wheel between streaming audio

What I like is that

• I can use it as a bt interface for my old lsr 305s
• I can load flac songs on the dap and play them directly (which I use quite a bit. And won't drain your phones battery)

I would still very much like to make phone calls via m0. Is there a plan to make this happen?

@Shanling has said that there is not enough space inside the M0 for the required circuitry.
In order to detect Remote button presses (for Play/pause/hook (Short Press), Trigger Assist (Long Press), Next (Double Press)) and to connect a Microphone - a 4 pole (TRRS) jack would have to be installed, an Analog to Digital Converter chip would have to be added, and code written to incorporate it into the system.
Voltage references would also be needed, in order for the M0 to respond to additional Remote buttons, for Volume+ and Volume-.

 

[Rodnix]

No, M0 does not contain the necessary hardware to receive mic input. You need the radsone ES100 for that, but you lose DAP capabilities.

@mathi8vadhanan thank you. I understand a bit more now.

@Shanling has said that there is not enough space inside the M0 for the required circuitry.
In order to detect Remote button presses (for Play/pause/hook (Short Press), Trigger Assist (Long Press), Next (Double Press)) and to connect a Microphone - a 4 pole (TRRS) jack would have to be installed, an Analog to Digital Converter chip would have to be added, and code written to incorporate it into the system.
Voltage references would also be needed, in order for the M0 to respond to additional Remote buttons, for Volume+ and Volume-.

@DBaldock9 That was a detailed explanation. I see now. The M0 has a very different intended market than what I had imagined. I've just dipped into the pool. Thank you.
You know, the M0 will have much larger market if they can cram in what you had said into, say the size of M1. I mean it does help in a very real third world problem. Also, the buyers would buy it just for the Bluetooth call feature, and I'm not kidding here.

you must be new to this friend, there isn't any DAP out there that make phone calls...including 4000$+ DAPs
so your expecting too much from a 99$ device

@Blazer39 totally new! As with all who venture into the unknown, we would test the waters before we dive into the deep end. I get it now though. The solution the M0 provides is actually to miniatureize a DAP and the others are extra features. Kudos to Shanling to be able to cram all that into the M0 (technology). They just need to revisit the intended market for the capitalization. Perhaps a product upgrade? I suppose a btr3 would help me with what I need.

Do you mean you would like a DAP/Bluetooth transmitter/receiver with a microphone, to allow you to use it as sort of Bluetooth interface? I have a couple of those... The XB10 by Astell & Kern (APTX-HD) and a little clip on thing by Samsung (APTX). They're not true DACs nor DAPs though...

@salla45, Thank you for those recs you mentioned. I will take a look at those when I get a chance. I went from reviews and recommendations, got diverted from the btr3 to the M0 and I ended up buying that. Don't get me wrong. I like the M0 for what it does. It just isn't for me. And I reached this website because of the M0 .. So, that's a good thing thanks again.

thanks dude. you made my day!

@fogma I'm glad that my misinformed comment made your day. This may not be the last though. Have a good one