Shanling M0 - Smallest Hi-Res Portable Player - New Firmware V3.6
Oct 26, 2020 at 9:14 PM Post #6,121 of 6,418
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hello, can I do this?

bluetooth from phone LDAC - Shanling M0 - USB dongle - Earphone

Most of USB dongles are not supported by our MTouch system, as they drain too much power.
You would need to use USB DAC that's self powered.
 
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Oct 27, 2020 at 11:39 AM Post #6,122 of 6,418
That can probably be done, but the battery life will be impacted by powering an external USB DAC.
The DAC chip in the M0 is the same ESS Saber ES9218P Quad DAC, that's used in the highly regarded LG V30 phone.
Which chip is in the external USB DAC that you're planning to connect?
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Oct 31, 2020 at 11:34 AM Post #6,124 of 6,418
Hey,

I prepared the SD card for my M0, a 512 GO, I copied around 400 GO of Flac, organized by Musique Type / Artist / Album. But everytime when I'm updating the library, it does not work...

I had a look we where it stop, always the same album / song. It is a file with a very long name with special charater ";". So i remove this album. now it stops one album further... no special character 🎃

I don't know what to do :disappointed_relieved:

Has anyone an idea :beerchug:?
 
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Oct 31, 2020 at 11:47 AM Post #6,125 of 6,418
There are several posts in this thread relating to "special characters" and the problems they cause while scanning. You could search this thread to see what characters have been reported. I don't have a list, sorry.
 
Oct 31, 2020 at 11:50 AM Post #6,126 of 6,418
Hey,

I prepared the SD card for my M0, a 512 GO, I copied around 400 GO of Flac, organized by Musique Type / Artist / Album. But everytime when I'm updating the library, it does not work...

I had a look we where it stop, always the same album / song. It is a file with a very long name with special charater ";". So i remove this album. now it stops one album further... no special character 🎃

I don't know what to do :disappointed_relieved:

Has anyone an idea :beerchug:?
Where did you buy the SD card? Was it surprisingly good value?

Edit: I guess you were able to put the music on there so maybe the card is OK. It could be a special character problem.
 
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Oct 31, 2020 at 9:22 PM Post #6,128 of 6,418
Ok thanks
I have a look it and try again.

Yeah the SD card is not expensive. But I don’t need a fast one to listen music... and I copied the music so it should be ok I guess.
Hi Dili -
I had problems in the past with "special" characters, and reported a list of troublesome titles and artist names to Shanling a while ago. Typically, Slavic, French and German composers with special letters in their name would turn up in my list with one or more Chinese characters in their names. After the next update the problem was a lot less, but not completely gone. But it has never been causing library update crashes. My M0 has rejected an SDcard once, but that time it was simply telling me NO SD CARD. It has always worked with all other cards, cheap and expensive alike.

In my case, the crashes during library update started around the time I put more than 16.000 titles on my M0, and since then the crashing has never stopped. It is highly predictable though, and non-fatal. The pattern is as follows:
1st try: the M0 freezes after the counter has passed 16.000 (the counter is always between 16000 and 17000) and has to be shut down.
2nd try: the M0 finishes the update very quickly, but now the list only has very little titles (usually less than 200) most of which are the new titles that I have added.
3rd try: the M0 completes the update and does not crash. The list still shows a little over 16.000 titles, but after a restart and an OPEN ALL it shows the correct number of titles. I can play all new and old titles without errors.

I have 2 M0's and they both do it. It makes no difference if I change the SDcard. It also makes no difference if I add 1 title or many titles. Even when I have removed titles only, the library update behaves as described above. There seems to be no solution, but it is possible to update your library if you have 2 hours time at hand (which is how long it takes for me to perform these 3 updates now I have 23.000 titles in memory).
Since the last update it is possible to turn the screen OFF during update library, which was impossible before. With the screen OFF it is possible to do 3 updates on a full battery without recharging.

My advise would be: do 3 updates in a row, then a restart. Pres OPEN ALL in the menu MY MUSIC and check if the library update was successful.
With my MO's it always is. If not, there might be another problem. My best guess would be:
- One or more corrupt files (broken audio or broken tags) cause the problem
- One or more files on the SD card are non-audio and cause a problem (picture files such as JPG, GIF and the like typically cause no problems, but maybe executables or other strange file types do)
- The SD card has a problem but that would be my last guess since this typically results in bigger problems than update fails


Succes!
 
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Oct 31, 2020 at 10:03 PM Post #6,129 of 6,418
There is 20 000 file limit.

If you have more files, you would need to use folder browsing (which is unlimited).
Hi Shanling! Hope you have a great day over there in China.
I was a bit confused SAM_5405.JPG when you wrote the limit of titles is 20.000...
This M0 happily plays with 21372 songs on it. Are you sure this is correct?
I remember vaguely you have stated earlier that it was 50.000 but I might be wrong.
 
Nov 1, 2020 at 4:47 PM Post #6,130 of 6,418
Hi Shanling! Hope you have a great day over there in China.
I was a bit confused SAM_5405.JPG when you wrote the limit of titles is 20.000...
This M0 happily plays with 21372 songs on it. Are you sure this is correct?
I remember vaguely you have stated earlier that it was 50.000 but I might be wrong.
Are you using folder browser?
 
Nov 1, 2020 at 6:37 PM Post #6,131 of 6,418
Hi,

Thx for the advise.
I copied folders until there is a problem. It turns out, it’s because of the picture... it works as soon as I change the picture.

I extracted the CD with iTunes and somtime there was no picture. Afterwards I edited the tag with Bpoweramp and added the pictures, sometime there was nothing so I uploaded the first picture I found...

I think I have no other choice than copying small group of folders and check the synchronisation right after... it’s gonna take a while !!
 
Nov 2, 2020 at 1:20 AM Post #6,132 of 6,418
Where did you buy the SD card? Was it surprisingly good value?

Edit: I guess you were able to put the music on there so maybe the card is OK. It could be a special character problem.

Actually, you can "put" music on fake Micro SD card. When copying, it will all look fine, then you pop it into a player, see all the files there, but found out the scan doesn't work and the files can't be read. Every week there is at least 1-2 cases of somebody buying some random "Huawei 1TB" 25 Euro card on Amazon and then reaching to us, complaining that their player doesn't work properly.

Hi Shanling! Hope you have a great day over there in China.
I was a bit confused when you wrote the limit of titles is 20.000...
This M0 happily plays with 21372 songs on it. Are you sure this is correct?
I remember vaguely you have stated earlier that it was 50.000 but I might be wrong.

Originally it was set higher, but after some testing, software team decided to lower it.
M2X, M5s, Q1, all set at 20k. I think M0 had it slightly higher.

Hi,
Thx for the advise.
I copied folders until there is a problem. It turns out, it’s because of the picture... it works as soon as I change the picture.

I extracted the CD with iTunes and somtime there was no picture. Afterwards I edited the tag with Bpoweramp and added the pictures, sometime there was nothing so I uploaded the first picture I found...

I think I have no other choice than copying small group of folders and check the synchronisation right after... it’s gonna take a while !!

If you locate such problematic files, you can send them to us and they will be provided to our software team, to adjust the library scan.
 
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Nov 2, 2020 at 4:21 AM Post #6,134 of 6,418
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Nov 2, 2020 at 1:19 PM Post #6,135 of 6,418
Hi,

I realized today that my SD card has problems :sweat_smile:

I thought first about another problem during the synchronization with the M0 because once the SD card was into the M0, files were just disappearing :astonished:

I figured out that the files were already gone right after the transfer from my computer :poop:
Try several times and to format again the file : no change.
I return it and I just bought this time a decent model (30€ to 100€, this time an « extreme » from a very well known brand :ok_hand:)

I should get it on Wednesday, I’ll let you know:L3000:
 

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