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Shanling M0 - Nano size, touch screen, LDAC & aptX BT, USB DAC/transport and ESS Sabre ES9218P, FW 3.2

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by Shanling, Mar 16, 2018.
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  1. myusernameislove
    If I understand correctly, DSEE HX is an additional algorithm for use with LDAC, that Sony implements solely into their newer models, i.e. I have not seen 3rd party model (Ldac receivers and Ldac headphones of other brands) to state in their specificarions, that it is used. Sony says it is not just an upscaler, but to simplify it, it upscales and by it I mean it calculates missing information, that was lost somewhere in the process of encoding music into lossy containers (all of them are lossy, even those losless ones, as digital is no analogue...). Not as advanced and true as Chord’s tapping into music data for decoding it faithfully using brutal computing power (more taps = more precise identification of transients = better sound), it probably cleverly calculates (creates) missing pieces of information and it probably uses fle metadata / Ldac metadata / its own metadata identified during frequency analysis somehow to identifiy frequencies that need recalculation most. Maybe similarly to Chord’s brand new M-Scaler.

    And to that Shanling’s response: Headphone manufacturers tune their dacs to sound best with their cans lately, Take f.e. Audeze iSine and cypher cable (that contains dac) - both units are tuned to sound best together, much better than with other dacs. Is it a fair thing to do? In my opinion it is not. If you do this, then sell it only together, right? it is kinda similar to preimplementing Chrome into Android devices or Internet Explorer into Microsoft Windows. It makes that product less usefull for use in other scenarios. Yet it happens, and noone says a thing against it. That said, Sony may have implemented a feature, that it uses flat tuning when their cans are paired with sources, that licenced only something. Or maybe noone can licence it, maybe it is related to Big data collection through android phones - you want DSEE HX? Ok, then install our app, and we will give you DSEE HX :D. Same as with Audeze - noone says a thing about or against it. Secret stuff, I tell you. It is merely a guess. I may be wrong.. But I know one thing for sure: They do not want to disturb consumers with such an unimportant information :wink: . Manufacturers are so kind to us.

    So to sum it up. Noone knows for sure, and probably only way how to react is to say these things happen in the world of business, Live with it.
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2018
  2. Br777
    I'm super interested in replacing my rockboxed clip zip, but My main reason for holding onto it all these years is the amazing parametric eq. It sounds like people are saying the eq on this player sucks. is that true?
    does it have a custom band eq or just presets? is the m1 player eq better than this one? any feedback or photos would be much appreciated.
     
  3. tim0chan
    M1 currently has better eq
     
  4. csglinux
    Well, I think so :)
     
  5. georgelai57
    I tend to use Folders view and listen to one folder/album at a time. For all my sd cards one folder is one album.

    I can’t seem to find the setting where I can make it not move to the next folder/album when an album has finished playing. Anyone know where/how?

    Thanks
     
  6. Shanling
    "Folder skip" setting in playback?
     
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  7. georgelai57
    “Folder Skip” means it will just play one folder and stop? If so that is exactly what I need.

    In fact, that leads to the other question. My screen says “Folder Sk” only and I always wondered what the full word was. Similarly under System is something called “Volume L”. What is the full word and what is it for?

    Thanks.
     
  8. Vimtoman
    go into folder view with lots of folders.

    swipe through the folders and you will find the scrolling speed speeds up . Like an extra kick.

    You can swipe once and scroll through a whole listing of folders. One end to the other.
    You'll see the kick more prominent in that test.

    It's the ramp up and ramp down of the scroll. you can catch it where it seems to kick the scroll.

    I think thats what a few people are complaining about the scrolling accuracy.

    I personally dont find it a problem as I can just swipe the list and press the screen to stop where I want it. Its faster.

    Maybe add a scrolling list speed option for people that want a slower action.
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2018
  9. Shanling
    Swipe left on text to make it scroll. Or look into manual :wink:

    it means folder skip and volume lock..
     
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  10. georgelai57
    Thank you but for your information, I have clicked on Instructions on your website for the M0 manual as I presume instructions and manual are the same thing. I click on the green button - both are in Chinese so I have no idea what they mean. The green one takes me to Dropbox etc and to cut a long story short, I still don’t see the manual.

    It would have been so much easier if you just put a simple PDF download on your website.

    But thanks anyway.
     
  11. Shanling
    There is link for manual on first page of this thread. Manual isn't fully completed, so not uploaded yet on website (which is still under construction)
     
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  12. sunshine83
    Hi there. I deactivate and reactivate bluetooth, then repair all my SONY speaker but no luck, it still shows the standart bluetooth icon. I jumped between the codecs as well, no luck :frowning2:

    Btw thanks for the update music settings :) sorry for my ignorance on that :)
     
  13. kwangomango
    Will the m0 passthrough to the usb output when it is receiving data via bluetooth?
     
  14. Shanling
    One last thing, can you reset the settings on your Sony speakers? We found some BT devices has kind of "limited memory", like they can be paired with just 2-3 devices. 4th device will get paired, but will not play. So the settings must be reset, to get back these "pairing slots"

    Refer to this post on prvious page: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new...-es9218p-fw-2-1.874859/page-161#post-14405627
     
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  15. kwangomango

    Great! Thanks.
     
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