Sennheiser IE800 IEM's
Jul 4, 2020 at 2:15 PM Post #7,756 of 7,998
Sry
Not wanting to be harsh, but I think google works in Norway, too. E.g waxguard:

https://www.amazon.com/Comply-Isolation-Cancelling-Earphone-Replacement/dp/B002ODUEDO
Badly written from my side. What i meant: do you use them without waxguard? Not the easiest thing to find info about compatible tips and ie800. Especially when Comply Tx-167(?) is the ONLY official one. Guess i have to do it the expensive way then.. the store here doesnt Even have the different sizes in one package either.
 
Jul 5, 2020 at 7:26 PM Post #7,758 of 7,998
As detailed below, the IE800 beat out six other top-flight IEMs for excitement, to my ears:

Motivation

As my signature line can direct you with its links, I have compared well over 100 IEMs and headphones on various acoustic criteria such as transparency, soundstage, treble detail, bass depth, and the like.

But what about... EXCITEMENT? That is what can change your mood from bad to good, or make your head bob or feet dance. I decided to compare seven IEMs purely on the excitement that they generated.

Factors of Excitement

I had encountered a piece of music a few years ago, "I Will Survive" as sung by Enrique Inglesias, that I used to start to collect a playlist of music that excited me. The first minute or so of the piece starts with the bite of violin bow on string and preserves the microtexture roughness that comes from tacky rosin dragging then releasing the violin string, despite the smoothness of overall sound. It moves on to include rhythmic tom-tom and kick drum with cymbal, all undergirded by a wonderful, taut bass line. Then a male voice begins the singing and filling out the midrange.

As I compared IEMs for excitement on that piece, I learned that for me, excitement consists of:

* Treble zing (almost tizziness) that gave spark to cymbals;
* Taut bass, with more twang than thump, to undergird the foundation;
* Drums (tom toms and snare) with a blow so sharp as to seem like an impulse;
* Mid-range internal structure... lots of counter rhythms going on in instruments and percussion;
* Spaciousness, so that instruments were airy, surrounding me, and separated in space.

IEMs Compared

These IEMs are shown in the next figure with their case and with the Sony PHA-3 driven by the Sony NW-45 player that I used to compare them. The subsequent figure moves in to the earpieces themselves.

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Figure 1: IEMs with their case, clockwise from top: Shure SE 535LTD with Norne Draug 2 custom cable (red and black), Sennheiser IE800, Grado GR10e, AKG K3003i, Sony XBA-Z5, Sony NW-45 with Sony PHA-3 DAC/Amp, Sony XBA-N40, and Final Audio Design Heaven VIII.

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Figure 2: Closeup view of the earpieces of IEMs as shown in Figure 1

Comments on Excitement Factors of Each IEM

Shure SE-535LTD with Norne Draug 2 cable: This IEM was very high on the factor of "treble zing," having almost a tizziness about its sound (the red, or LTD, version of the SE-535 is known to be brighter than the standard bronze version). However, when heard after the FAD Heaven VIII, it had a hollowed-out sound to its midrange and exhibited a need for more bass. I also had to spend over a minute each time I inserted these to get the earpiece fully seated and the memory wire placed properly over my ears... a big inconvenience.

Sony XBA/N40: I love these IEMs, in part because I admired them longingly when they came out perhaps six years ago and could not afford them, in part because now, when I can, they are only available from Japan and are rare in the US, and in part, because their gold and white look so good with my gold and white iPhone SE. As a four-driver balanced armature, they have good bass (better than the Shure). The instruments and voice feel closer to you than other IEMs, and they do not feel spacious. They do not have a tizzy feeling to their treble. They are just "push and play," i.e., push them into your ears, no fuss, and they are ready to go.

Grado GR10e: I am a real Grado fan, and these IEMs capture the bright treble excitement of the Grado headphone line. They are overall brighter than, say, the Sony XBA-Z5. I found that their brightness becomes a bit of a deterrent to turning the volume up enough to start to get the mid-range and bass detail that also add to the excitement. The drums have exciting impact with these, though their bass is less than that of the XBA-Z5 and their is a bit of hollowness to the mid-range when compared with the fullest of these IEMs, as well as less spaciousness than some.

Sony XBA-Z5: These have more bass, and more bass excitement, than the other Sonys, the XBA/N40. The bass has the impulse/impact that gives excitement, and there is little treble tizziness, so you can turn the volume up to allow your ear to reach into the depths of the bass and midrange detail, adding to the excitement. The memory wire and ear-shaped modules cause putting these on to become a one-minute operation, similar to the Shures, which made me fume with impatience at times.

AKG-K3003i: These have long been my top-of-the-line IEMs based on comparisons of acoustic features. They have the most tizzy of the treble brightness of the IEMs here, which gives a lot of excitement, and they put the treble right into the middle of your head (a good thing). However, unlike the Grados with their bright treble, the AKGs allow turning up the volume and digging into the bass and midrange detail without becoming fatiguing in the treble.

Final Audio Design Heaven VIII : Wow! These are very exciting. They both give great treble tizz and deep-reaching, grab-it bass detail. They have great bass speed, while at the same time the bite of bows on violin strings at the start of the piece is strong and exciting. They have a very spacious sound, though not quite so much as the Sennheisers below. They are super convenient to put on - just push and go.

Sennheiser IE800: These were the most exciting, besting the FAD Heaven VIII by only a small bit. They have more bass than the FAD, but are just a bit less in the treble. You can easily turn up the volume to reach even further into the bass and mid detail of the music. They provide the best spaciousness, moving the instruments apart, introducing air between them, and showing a large soundstage, all increasing the excitement.

Ranking of IEMs By Excitement

Based on the observations for each IEM given above, I conclude that the most exciting is the Sennheiser IE800, while the least exciting is the Shure SE535LTD.

In short with ">" used to mean "is greater than," the excitement factor goes as:

Sennheiser IE800 > FAD Heaven VIII > AKG K3003i > Sony XBA-Z5 > Grado GR10e > Sony XBA/N40 > Shure SE535LTD.

A ranking of these IEMs based on the 10 acoustic factors I have used in past comparisons (see my signature line) would give a different ranking, but I wanted to concentrate on the excitement factor as its own feature, which I have done here.
 
Jul 13, 2020 at 12:49 AM Post #7,759 of 7,998
I’ve been mainly listening to the Shure KSE1200 and IER-Z1R recently. Both are amazing, but I came back to the IE800S tonight and they are easily in the same league. Outstanding IEMs!!

I own the KSE1200 and IE800S, and have had the Z1R for a time, and can agree. The IE800S makes me want to sell my KSE at times, because it often doesn't feel far off. Technically, the KSE is more resolving, and it's not hard to tell (which is why I've kept it). But the IE800S isn't tons far away off. And there's utmost naturality to Sennheiser's sounds sig that many IEMs I've heard can't rival. It's a terrific IEM.
 
Jul 14, 2020 at 6:41 AM Post #7,760 of 7,998
Anyone expert in Sennheiser's authenticity? I want to buy this IE800 but I'm not sure anymore whether they are fake or original. Here are some photos.
 

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Jul 15, 2020 at 3:00 AM Post #7,761 of 7,998
Anyone expert in Sennheiser's authenticity? I want to buy this IE800 but I'm not sure anymore whether they are fake or original. Here are some photos.
Looks to be fake. The 5 digit serial number on the case should match the last 5 digits on the 10-digit barcode on screenshot 17 on the leftmost part of the screenshot. That’s what I noticed on my IE800 and IE800S
 
Jul 15, 2020 at 3:04 AM Post #7,762 of 7,998
Looks to be fake. The 5 digit serial number on the case should match the last 5 digits on the 10-digit barcode on screenshot 17 on the leftmost part of the screenshot. That’s what I noticed on my IE800 and IE800S
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Jul 16, 2020 at 12:13 PM Post #7,765 of 7,998
Anyone expert in Sennheiser's authenticity? I want to buy this IE800 but I'm not sure anymore whether they are fake or original. Here are some photos.

I myself once fell victim to one of these sellers on ebay, who had a bunch of IE800s on sale for what would be considered a very competitive / almost too good to be true price. I've gone through 2 or 3 pairs of the older model, and could immediately tell a difference upon receiving it. I ended up making a detailed comparison post which clearly shows some differences. Luckily I was able to return the pair and get a refund, albeit losing out on shipping costs. Looking at the countless positive feedback the seller got from the people who bought them was kinda disheartening.

If it's too good to be true, don't buy it.

TL;DR: Legit vs. fake IE800s
 
Jul 16, 2020 at 12:36 PM Post #7,766 of 7,998
I myself once fell victim to one of these sellers on ebay, who had a bunch of IE800s on sale for what would be considered a very competitive / almost too good to be true price. I've gone through 2 or 3 pairs of the older model, and could immediately tell a difference upon receiving it. I ended up making a detailed comparison post which clearly shows some differences. Luckily I was able to return the pair and get a refund, albeit losing out on shipping costs. Looking at the countless positive feedback the seller got from the people who bought them was kinda disheartening.

If it's too good to be true, don't buy it.

TL;DR: Legit vs. fake IE800s
Thank you very much for sharing this. It's really helpful.
 
Jul 25, 2020 at 9:39 AM Post #7,767 of 7,998
Just thought id share my little mod.
Ive epoxy resined a pair of generic nozzles onto my ie800, not super high end finished but the end result is I can use a variety of tips now.
Nothing seems to have changed in regard to the sound and Im super happy with the result.

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Jul 29, 2020 at 2:15 AM Post #7,769 of 7,998
Just thought id share my little mod.
Ive epoxy resined a pair of generic nozzles onto my ie800, not super high end finished but the end result is I can use a variety of tips now.
Nothing seems to have changed in regard to the sound and Im super happy with the result.

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You could have used SuperGlue
 
Aug 23, 2020 at 10:16 AM Post #7,770 of 7,998
What is an good upgrade from IE800 or something similar/worth trying if IE800 is your go to IEM?
 

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