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Sennheiser HD820

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by Dulalala, Apr 29, 2017.
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  1. QueueCumber
    The brain works on template systems with the perception of senses and patterns. When something is close to the template the mind doesn’t notice a difference. When it varies greatly from the template, the brain either assimilates, accommodates, and/or integrates it with its current template. I think it’s fairly normal brain functioning for someone to “eq” the sound from any reasonable audio source over time. The brain noticing perceptions far outside the usual parameters is evolutionary and useful for survival, and being able to integrate those differences over time is useful when the changes aren’t threatening.
     
  2. Beagle
    I should have put that in proper context. Dude on the right likes neutrality it would seem, but the guy on the right admits he likes his bass big.

    Bottom line with me. If I get the 820 adjusted so I get a proper even seal, I hear a mid/upper bass bump. If I lower the cups, I get a weaker seal and lighter bass but inconsistent sound.
     
  3. 8bitme
    Beagle again sadly it's very obvious you are not experiencing these headphones the way they should. I would return them if I was you.
     
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  4. Beagle
    I am more puzzled as to why some others are not hearing what I am hearing (with regards to the bass....everything else is wonderful). It seems quite obvious. I don't think mine are defective. The graph (for what it's worth) seems to bear this out.
     
  5. up late
    @jude posted that his measurements "look rather different"...
     
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  6. 329161
    Sounds like a natural phenomenon going from relatively bass heavy to relatively bass light. I've read countless other similar accounts over the years. I think the brain notices the contrast in bass level rather than appreciating what bass there is.
    Re: the hd820, it is relatively more warm and bassy than the others in the 800 line, and this may lead some to think the bass hump is too large? Just speculation.
     
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  7. 8bitme
    It's such a weird thing to say but sadly I think it comes down to the shape your head. When I put my 820 on I get a even seal right away where everything is consistent. If I would however then push the headphones towards my head I will also get that bass bump that you seem to be experiencing but this is obviously not how these headphones are supposed to be heard. It sounds much better when I just put them on.
     
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  8. syke
    Absolutely. It will work for some, and not for others. But just looking from a high end manufacturer's point of view, why? I know in terms of manufacturing cost, it will be fabulous, recycling the HD800, HD800S design. But what happened to you Sennheiser, you are supposed to be the hi-fidelity greatness. You are now turning a portion of people away with that crazy fit.
     
  9. Mark Up
    I think you've totally misread what you quoted that was written by those two people. They are standing up for the validity of those of us who like full, extended bass being lumped into bass head territory by fans of the Grado or older AKG sound (ie. bass light, early roll off) as if "bass head" is a bad thing, that invalidates your ability to make judgements about other aspects of the sound. I'd say a majority prefer having full bass, and good extension, reviewers addressing those concerns aren't a bad thing. I think they'd agree with you about the value of the bass.
     
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  10. Maelob
    Just want to clear things -
    I read the quoted post as a sarcastic comment disparaging bassheads- but maybe it was a literal praise.I am a bass head! I am not the one disparaging bass heads
     
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  11. Maelob
    Thanks that’s what I meant
     
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  12. Malfunkt
    Graph honestly isn’t that crazy. The bump in the bass is what many people wanted from an 800, the dip before the mid range is common in closed cans to separate the low end a bit from the mid range.

    It isn’t like Sennheiser made a mistake with the frequency profile. It is absolutely measured and by design. Just like the 800 has its linear curve the 820 has a different character. Which is actually great news because we already have two iterations of the same headphone and it’s great that this is different than the 800/800S with some family similarities.

    Now, there are some very linear closed backs. For instance, D2000 (semi-closed) is actually very linear from bass through to treble - though with a darker tilt. Heck even some Bose headphones are more linear in their graphs than the 820. Yeah, let that sink in.
     
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  13. Beagle
    Again, not bassheads as in Beats overblown crap but a preference for higher than "neutral" in a particular area of the bass range. I can live with a bit extra 50hZ and below but when the bump is at 100 and upward, it sticks out like a sore thumb for me, and infiltrates into other areas of the FR. Some others might like this.

    But you could always build a natural, neutral, even response phone and EQ in what you like more of. This way everyone "starts" on an "level playing field".

    Maybe I had the wrong expectations. I predicted (and hoped for) a closed 800s with pretty much the same fr balance, since they called it the '820', rather than renaming a completely different headphone.. AKG did this with the K812/872....they share a similar fr.
     
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  14. Beagle
    What do you think of the 820?
     
  15. Beagle
    This warm blob effect does not bleed into the lower midrange, because the lower midrange is not there to bleed into....it's a bit sucked out. So it stands out in isolation. That's sort of how I'm hearing it.
     
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