I honestly haven't spent enough time with the LCD-3's to get them to the level of pure satisfaction I get with the 650's with the right songs/genres, but I suspect as you both mentioned that their speed will make them better suited across the board... Whether they are better suited for acoustic guitar/vocals/whatever sounds beautiful with the 650's remains to be heard.
Actually, my LCD-2 does very well with small-scale acoustics/vocals. Fantastic. I see them as the Progeny of the 650. Seriously. A descendant. A bit like how modern birds are progeny of ancient reptiles, to stretch a metaphor.
I know this question has came up but is there a closed back,at any price that sounds like the 650. I absolutely love the 650 but need a can that doesn't leak much sound out.
If sennheiser makes a closed back that they claim is near the sig of the 650 I would go as far as blind buying it being said I cannot stand the momentums. But maybe I just don't like on ears as I also thought the p7s were horrible as well :/
I know this question has came up but is there a closed back,at any price that sounds like the 650. I absolutely love the 650 but need a can that doesn't leak much sound out.
The DT150 has the 650's signature in the midrange, deeper bass and a touch cleaner treble. It is ugly and utilitarian, but if you do not plan to use it outdoors, it is exactly what you seek.
I know this question has came up but is there a closed back,at any price that sounds like the 650. I absolutely love the 650 but need a can that doesn't leak much sound out.
Great...I'll hold on my wallet and look forward to those...actually I've been eyeing audeze EL-8...I really need a decent cans to be used in library...
Great...I'll hold on my wallet and look forward to those...actually I've been eyeing audeze EL-8...I really need a decent cans to be used in library...
A good closed back headphone option could be the Alpha Dogs. However I am interested in the closed back headphone, Sennheiser is bringing out sometime.
I've tried the Hifiman HE 400 at a meet last year and by memory they are very 'thin' sounding without too much body/weight especially in the bass, recessed mids and finicky treble... but that's just my impressions - and those cans never got any love all day with all the other head-fi'ers and flagship headphones. The HE-6 is a whole galaxy better!!!!!!
And that will be my sure-shot replacement for the 650, once I come across an extra $ grand-ish
I saw a video that compared a headphone (cant remember), a denon, the Hifiman HE-400 and the Sennheiser HD 650. The reviewer picked the HE-400 over everything else. Has anyone here listened to both headphones raw and with an amp? How would you compare the two? I know this is the Sennheiser thread but try not to be too biased, just as honest as possible.
I have both and did a comparison a while back. Search my posts for HE-400 vs HD-650. It's in this thread and on a standalone thread of that name (although I'm not the OP on that thread).
I've had lots of time with both now and haven't changed my opinion. The HE-400 did not win but it has its merits. YMMV etc.
Edit: neither will be stisfactory un-amped IMHO. There's many who will tell you otherwise, especially at the start of the HE-400 impressions thread, and this would have got me flamed if I posted it within the first 100 pages of that thread, but both have very specific power requirements. To give them less is a setup for a fail. Better to get an amp or a truly sensitive and low-impedance can meant for unamped operation if that's the goal.
I have both and did a comparison a while back. Search my posts for HE-400 vs HD-650. It's in this thread and on a standalone thread of that name (although I'm not the OP on that thread).
I've had lots of time with both now and haven't changed my opinion. The HE-400 did not win but it has its merits. YMMV etc.
Edit: neither will be stisfactory un-amped IMHO. There's many who will tell you otherwise, especially at the start of the HE-400 impressions thread, and this would have got me flamed if I posted it within the first 100 pages of that thread, but both have very specific power requirements. To give them less is a setup for a fail. Better to get an amp or a truly sensitive and low-impedance can meant for unamped operation if that's the goal.
I also have both. HE-400 has very different power requirements than the HD650 and only a few amps can pull of both well. Lyr2, H10, Cavalli Liquid etc. the HE-400 needs lots of power and voltage at low Ohms and the HD650 needs lots of that up in the 300 Ohm range due to their specific impedance.
Both of them scale with the amps, the better the amp, the better they sound (as a rule of thumb)...
If I would need to decide between the two and could only keep one: I would keep the HD650.
I have both and did a comparison a while back. Search my posts for HE-400 vs HD-650. It's in this thread and on a standalone thread of that name (although I'm not the OP on that thread.
I've had lots of time with both now and haven't changed my opinion. The HE-400 did not win but it has its merits. YMMV etc.
Agree with you about the HD-650 and HE-400, if anything they make a good compliment to each other but if I could keep only one it would be the HD-650, more so if you keep the HE-400 stock, with all the mods I've done to the HE-400 it becomes a toss-up with the HD-650. I've done the grill mod, changed the pads to velour or Focus depending on my mood, installed the metal ring so that the Focus pads don't rotate, made a rubber/neoprene gasket to seal the metal ring and made a custom head pad to make it way more comfortable, YMMV with this.
Agree with you about the HD-650 and HE-400, if anything they make a good compliment to each other but if I could keep only one it would be the HD-650, more so if you keep the HE-400 stock, with all the mods I've done to the HE-400 it becomes a toss-up with the HD-650. I've done the grill mod, changed the pads to velour or Focus depending on my mood, installed the metal ring so that the Focus pads don't rotate, made a rubber/neoprene gasket to seal the metal ring and made a custom head pad to make it way more comfortable, YMMV with this.
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