[alpovs]

Sorry, never seen or heard of particular DACs with volume control. Can you give a few examples out of many?

NAD51

Did you mean NAD M51? "35-bit 844kHz DAC and Digital Preamp. More than Just a DAC. M51 is a fully functional digital preamp." Source: https://nadelectronics.com/en_CA/product/m51-direct-digital-dac/

 

[Thouston]

I'll be joining the Yggdrasil owners club in a couple of hours. My Yggy is scheduled to deliver today. I own a Gumby and a Bifrost Multibit, so I am aware of the treat that my ears are in for. Let the burn-in begin.

 

[alpovs]

And to add to the complexity of volume controls…
Several DAC's will include a digital vol control (like the PSA PWD and DirectStream Dac) which technically aren't using a pre-amp, as it is a function of the DAC chips themselves.

If PSA PWD is PS Audio PerfectWave DAC, its webpage says "Player and preamp". Source: http://www.psaudio.com/perfectwave-dac/ Listed under "Overview".

 

[alpovs]

The PS Audio DirectStream is a “pure” DAC that has a volume control. I am sure there are many other examples.

So far this is the only DAC that positions itself as a "pure DAC" with volume control out of those mentioned as examples.

As I see most people who desire volume control in a DAC think that most DACs should be combo units (DAC + preamp/amp). Otherwise, I don't understand why one would want to control volume in the DAC when there is an amplifier for this. Anyway, one can't listen to music from a DAC only - an amplifier is a must.

 

[theveterans]

So far this is the only DAC that positions itself as a "pure DAC" with volume control out of those mentioned as examples.

As I see most people who desire volume control in a DAC think that most DACs should be combo units (DAC + preamp/amp). Otherwise, I don't understand why one would want to control volume in the DAC when there is an amplifier for this. Anyway, one can't listen to music from a DAC only - an amplifier is a must.

All Chord DAC amps have a digital volume control and their output stage is not the same as a typical preamp so they are considered "pure DAC" in that sense.

 

[jcn3]

is there any way to give this a rest? it's off topic since it's not relevant to the yggy.

this is all semantics . . . . volume control vs pre-amp. you haven't even gotten to active vs passive and types of inputs . . . .

even better -- go create a new thread called "yggy feature wish list" or "volume controls vs pre-amps -- the saga continues"

 

[Light - Man]

All Chord DAC amps have a digital volume control and their output stage is not the same as a typical preamp so they are considered "pure DAC" in that sense.

Just to clarify in case there is any confusion on Chord DACs, the Chord 2Qute has a 3 volt fixed output and even the new Chord Qutest has only 3 fixed outputs and they do not have any normal digital volume control.

Glad to hear the topic has moved on from fuses before someone's short fuse got the thread locked.

 

[billerb1]

Any Analog 2 upgrades arrived yet or have a shipment delivery date? Can’t wait to hear how it compares to the original.

 

[5genez]

I am looking forward to giving my impression of the differences between the Yggy A as compared to the Yggy B.

For once, an A is a lower grade than a B.

My unit is due to be received Wednesday according to FedEx tracking.

 

[mourip]

is there any way to give this a rest? it's off topic since it's not relevant to the yggy.

Yes please. I do not think that anyone else wants to split these hairs any longer.

 

[purehifi192]

Any Analog 2 upgrades arrived yet or have a shipment delivery date? Can’t wait to hear how it compares to the original.

Tomorrow for me. I ordered my Yggdrasil in August so believe most of the other changes including USB5 were already in there save for the new Analog 2 upgrade.

 

[billerb1]

Tomorrow for me. I ordered my Yggdrasil in August so believe most of the other changes including USB5 were already in there save for the new Analog 2 upgrade.

Can't wait to hear everyone's impressions but I'm assuming it's the long initial burn-in required again before really being able to compare.

 

[purehifi192]

Can't wait to hear everyone's impressions but I'm assuming it's the long initial burn-in required again before really being able to compare.

Yep. Hope to be pleasantly surprised, but imagine it'll be a few weeks out.

 

[SeaWo|f]

I am really shocked at how much is being made out of this.. the heart of the DACs architecture is still the same, I will be extremely skeptical of those that will inevitable come on here claiming that this upgrade transforms the performance of the yggy and it is now the in another class.

I do believe that meaning full progress can be made with improvement to the output boards, but unless there was an overt problem with old ones, the improvement will be subtle.

When I send mine off I am not expecting a new device on return.

I am glad schiit is continuing to support existing units with these updates.

 

[gdhal]

As of today, Schiit has received my analog A Yggdrasil in order to upgrade it to analog B. I've been informed it will be a day or so until checked into service, and then approximately 5 business days before mailed back to me.

During my Yggdrasil's absence, I'm having to use my Oppo UDP-205. As good as the Oppo sounds with its top-of-line Sabre ESS chips, there is no comparison to the overall sound quality and presentation provided by the Yggdrasil. I miss it dearly!