Schiit Yggdrasil Impressions thread
Sep 12, 2016 at 11:52 AM Post #3,166 of 12,398
  Well, a remote control, for one. :)

Yes, and I have it on good authority from local members that certain remotes can perform double-duty as defensive weapons:
 

 
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Sep 12, 2016 at 2:40 PM Post #3,167 of 12,398
surge protection:
 
Just spent more than I wanted for a Brickwall surge protector.  Got the 8
outlet audio model.  It has some nice audio friendly features but mainly
I need max peace of mind leaving Yggy on forever.  I make frequent
3 day to 1 wk. trips during spring/summer and live in an older Seattle
suburb with enough trees and wind storms for the occasional power
outage.  To my ears/brain the improvment to Yggy after being on
very long term is significant.  Yeah I know I should have total house
protection, a back up battery suppy and full replacement value insurance,
but life involves economic compromise and risk.
 
gad-
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 6:20 PM Post #3,168 of 12,398
surge protection:

Just spent more than I wanted for a Brickwall surge protector.  Got the 8
outlet audio model.  It has some nice audio friendly features but mainly
I need max peace of mind leaving Yggy on forever.  I make frequent
3 day to 1 wk. trips during spring/summer and live in an older Seattle
suburb with enough trees and wind storms for the occasional power
outage.  To my ears/brain the improvment to Yggy after being on
very long term is significant.  Yeah I know I should have total house
protection, a back up battery suppy, full replacement value insurance
and a plastic jesus, but life involves compromise

gad-


If you don't mind please keep your own personal feelings to yourself. This is a forum about audio. Share those thoughts to those who may share your own views
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 6:29 PM Post #3,169 of 12,398
If you don't mind please keep your own personal feelings to yourself. This is a forum about audio. Share those thoughts to those who may share your own views
I don't what he said that upset you but music is about personal feelings.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 7:00 PM Post #3,170 of 12,398
There are many PCM DACs from the 90's that I would bet money on that sound better than a lot of the new "32-bit" delta-sigma DACs
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 7:42 PM Post #3,172 of 12,398
I'm entirely sold on the technology behind Yggdrasil.  I have no interest in DSD.  Zip.  Even my home theatre system at home is strictly two channel, with a PCM based ladder DAC driving the sound, because I think most multichannel systems sound bad.

But, ordering something of that value direct across borders and through customs, sight unseen and sound unheard, would give anyone serious pause, I think.

So, you order something, swallow hard once when you you pay for it online knowing your credit card is adding 30% to the cost, and then swallow hard a second time when the delivery guy arrives with a mega bill at your door for taxes, duties, tariffs, brokerage fees, etc...., I think...it's a reality us Canadians deal with everyday.  We're a relatively small market and there are actually many companies that simply refuse to ship to Canada, period.  Despite having NAFTA in place, our government has always been a bit protectionist, keeping the barriers in place for consumers shopping online.  It's unfortunate.

I'll probably pull the trigger....eventually.

Depending on where you live, there are local Canadian based meets. I know a couple of people with Yggys north of the border, and I myself heard it shortly after it was released in Calgary.

As for overhead, the banks exchange rate is usually not as good as the market, so for larger purchases, you may want to use another exchange service such as Calforex.

Shipping should be straight up if you choose USPS. It becomes Canada Post at the border. The customs fee is a flat $9.99, and you will pay local taxes on the exchanged Canadian value. There are no duties owed, or brokerage fees if you go this route. Other shippers sometimes use costly brokers who are completely unnecessary. I would avoid them for this very reason.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 8:31 PM Post #3,173 of 12,398
If you don't mind please keep your own personal feelings to yourself. This is a forum about audio. Share those thoughts to those who may share your own views


Pardon me.
 
I edited the original offending post to
appease your feelings.  Only your
quote of my non-edited post is left
to offend.
 
The cultural influence of life in atheistic
socialistic dope addled prius driving
Seattle sometimes dulls my sensitivities.
Apologies to plastic jesus worshippers,
nordic tree of life afficianados and any
and all practitioners, cultists, or devotees
of any or no persuasions.  It's just
cannibalistic midgets listening to rap
with open headphones in my immediate
vicinity that really irks me.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 9:07 PM Post #3,174 of 12,398
  Well, a remote control, for one. :)

 
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that!  
Neither of my last two DAC's (Yggy being the latest & current) came with a remote.   I sit 3.5 - 4ft away, so one isn't really needed.
 
... Which reminds me...  If you need a built in pre-amp, yeah yggy ain't got one.   I added an SPL Volume 2 for pre-amp duties which has worked out pretty darn well.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 PM Post #3,175 of 12,398
LOL. hypersensitivity runs wild...:D

On the bells and whistles: Yggy also does not have a digital readout for bit rate etc. But then again, who cares.

Love it just fine as is, thank you very much.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 10:11 PM Post #3,176 of 12,398
  surge protection:
 
Just spent more than I wanted for a Brickwall surge protector.  Got the 8
outlet audio model.  It has some nice audio friendly features but mainly
I need max peace of mind leaving Yggy on forever.  I make frequent
3 day to 1 wk. trips during spring/summer and live in an older Seattle
suburb with enough trees and wind storms for the occasional power
outage.  To my ears/brain the improvment to Yggy after being on
very long term is significant.  Yeah I know I should have total house
protection, a back up battery suppy and full replacement value insurance,
but life involves economic compromise and risk.
 
gad-

I've heard from long time Jggy owners that after a while it only takes about 24hrs to return to peak SQ again.
 
I don't know how much time yours has accumulated but the return to sonic nirvana can be much less than you might think.
 
JJ
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 2:10 AM Post #3,177 of 12,398
I own a Yggdrasil and had an opportunity to compare it against an MSB Analog. The Yggy's sound is somewhat brighter and more precise, while the Analog's sound is slightly smoothed-over and, as a result, 'warmer'-sounding.

Both are excellent-sounding DACs but I believe it is the Yggy's superior definition which, in turn, provides for the 'holographic' sound stage many have described. Personally, if I desire a warmer sound, well, the DAC is the last place I would want to inject such coloration – a tube preamp makes more sense for this IMO.
this is good info to know that the yggy has more precise "definition"..

It is curious that I have very similar experience with my yggy against a lampizator level 7 that I heard many times..

It is clearly a very musical dac worthy of being at the top...
BUT,
I have noted on comparison to my yggy, that audience claps were more distinct with the yggy ,
Where I could differentiate the distant claps and their placement in space...

So although I noted a bit more dynamics and volume with the Lampizator,
I believe it's tubes gave it more immediate sense and flavor,

Whereas the yggy was the more neutral presentation which also was less forward and more distinct in details (audience claps)...

So this impression, along with your impressions,
Should answer the question of those higher priced Dac options.
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 AM Post #3,178 of 12,398
Would love to read some in-depth impressions of Yggy vs. Gungnir multibit.
 
I've read some comments where upgraders stated that the difference was significant.  Having listened to a number of high-end DACs over the years, I find that hard to believe, as I usually find the differences to be thin and subtle, in most cases (except where one of the DACs in the comparison just sucks).
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 10:21 AM Post #3,179 of 12,398
Have you searched through this thread for the Gungnir or Gumby? And have you searched through the Gungnir thread for Yggdrasil or Yggy? I think you'll find a number of comparisons have already been made.
 
I have been bringing my Gumby to meets, where there was always a Yggy. And I've yet to hear back from someone who thought there wasn't a difference. I think the argument has been more to sustain there are only subtle differences between Gumby and Bimby, to which I disagree. I think (and have heard in my systems and other's) there are definite differences between each of the upgrade-capable DACs, dependent on the downstream gear.
 
I thought I could live with Gumby for headphones and Yggy for speakers. But after my recent acquisition of the very resolving Jotunheim, Yggy moved into my headphone world. I'll repeat that the difference is dependent on how resolving the gear is downstream from the DAC. And the Gumby does not suck - and the Yggy is better.
 
What's in your downstream gear?
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 10:23 AM Post #3,180 of 12,398
Background on my system:  Mac Mini running Jriver -> Audiophilleo 2 + Pure Power -> Adcom GDA-600 (heavily renewed and upgraded) -> Adcom GFP-750 (renewed and upgraded) -> Bryston 3BSST -> Yamaha NS-1000M (modified Troels Gravesen Crossover)
 

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