[biosailor]

   
Just got a pair of LS50s after listening to them at The Schiitr driven by a Saga-Vidar, out of the Yiggy.  But, I want to put together two systems. I just haven't decided on the speakers yet.

And how did the Vidars sound? The LS50s are quite a load for any amp! Does anyone have news regarding the release date of the Vidar?

 

[almarti]

Hi All,
 
I joined this discussion at last message and my question it may be answered (if so, please point me to the right thread).
Do you think it's worth to replace my current integrated amp Marantz PM-17 KI Signature by Ragnarok?
I am looking for a good headphone & speakers amp for living room.
 
It is pairing with

1. Schiit Modi 2 Multibit (Mimby) decoding Tidal and FLAC 24/96-192
2. Speakers Chario Constellation Lynx 4-ohm
3. Headphone MrSpeakers Ether Flow
4. Mainly Rock and Jazz

 
If worth, any other alternative to Ragnarok?
 
Thanks.

 

[Mr Rick]

  And how did the Vidars sound? The LS50s are quite a load for any amp! Does anyone have news regarding the release date of the Vidar?

The Vidar drove the LS50s just fine. I plan to drive my LS50s with a 36 WPC tube amp as well. I'm sure there will be no problem as I have a small listening room.
 
The Vidar will be ready............when it's ready. I was told it's going along just fine, with no hold-ups currently.

 

[Mr Rick]

  Hi All,
 
I joined this discussion at last message and my question it may be answered (if so, please point me to the right thread).
Do you think it's worth to replace my current integrated amp Marantz PM-17 KI Signature by Ragnarok?
I am looking for a good headphone & speakers amp for living room.
 
It is pairing with

1. Schiit Modi 2 Multibit (Mimby) decoding Tidal and FLAC 24/96-192
2. Speakers Chario Constellation Lynx 4-ohm
3. Headphone MrSpeakers Ether Flow
4. Mainly Rock and Jazz

 
If worth, any other alternative to Ragnarok?
 
Thanks.

 
That is a difficult question to answer. Not being familiar with your speakers. 
 
I'm sure the Rag will be a good pairing with your Ether Flow.
 
Is there something that you find deficient in your PM-17??

 

[biosailor]

Hi All,

I joined this discussion at last message and my question it may be answered (if so, please point me to the right thread).
Do you think it's worth to replace my current integrated amp Marantz PM-17 KI Signature by Ragnarok?
I am looking for a good headphone & speakers amp for living room.

It is pairing with

• Schiit Modi 2 Multibit (Mimby) decoding Tidal and FLAC 24/96-192
• Speakers Chario Constellation Lynx 4-ohm
• Headphone MrSpeakers Ether Flow
• Mainly Rock and Jazz

If worth, any other alternative to Ragnarok?

Thanks.

4 Ohm speakers, mightn't it a bit of a tough load for the Ragnarok? Maybe you'd have to look for a bit more juice, maybe one of those American tanks like the Odyssey Stratos amp? Check the link:
http://www.odysseyaudio.com/products-stratos-stereo.html

 

[US Blues]

4 Ohm speakers, mightn't it a bit of a tough load for the Ragnarok? Maybe you'd have to look for a bit more juice, maybe one of those American tanks like the Odyssey Stratos amp? Check the link:
http://www.odysseyaudio.com/products-stratos-stereo.html

 
I ran 4 ohm speakers with a Rag and that is not a problem. The key question is: does the Rag have sufficient power for the sensitivity of speakers + size of the room + preferred listening volume of the owner. Rag is good for a small to mid-sized system in a smaller room, and does very well driving smaller speakers along with a powered subwoofer or two.

 

[biosailor]

I ran 4 ohm speakers with a Rag and that is not a problem. The key question is: does the Rag have sufficient power for the sensitivity of speakers + size of the room + preferred listening volume of the owner. Rag is good for a small to mid-sized system in a smaller room, and does very well driving smaller speakers along with a powered subwoofer or two.

Good point, thanks for clarifying!

 

[almarti]

   
I ran 4 ohm speakers with a Rag and that is not a problem. The key question is: does the Rag have sufficient power for the sensitivity of speakers + size of the room + preferred listening volume of the owner. Rag is good for a small to mid-sized system in a smaller room, and does very well driving smaller speakers along with a powered subwoofer or two.

35 squared meters room
Chario Constellation Lynx - 4-ohm, 100W Max power, 89db sensivity, 2 ways (38mm tweeter & 130mm woofer)
Listening volume no more than 11 o'clock
Current Marantz PM17 KI Signature delivers 60W at 8-ohm, 100W at 4-ohm
Is Rag an alternative?
 

   
That is a difficult question to answer. Not being familiar with your speakers. 
 
I'm sure the Rag will be a good pairing with your Ether Flow.
 
Is there something that you find deficient in your PM-17??

Not sure some deficient but headphone output (section) is not as good as what I get from Chord Mojo, using same source, although I love how Marantz sounds with speakers.
Mojo is used in other rooms and when travelling. I know I can use as well in living room but I would like to re-use what I have in living room, for speakers and for headphone
 
Living Room Rig
Tidal HIFI or FLAC 24/96-192 -> Chromcast Audio -> Mimby -> Marantz PM17 KI Signature -> Chario Constellation Lynx or Ether Flow
 
Mobile Rig
Tidal HIFI or FLAC 24/96-192 -> Chromcast Audio or iOS/Cable -> Mojo -> Ether Flow
 
Any other detail needed?

 

[US Blues]

 

   
I ran 4 ohm speakers with a Rag and that is not a problem. The key question is: does the Rag have sufficient power for the sensitivity of speakers + size of the room + preferred listening volume of the owner. Rag is good for a small to mid-sized system in a smaller room, and does very well driving smaller speakers along with a powered subwoofer or two.

35 squared meters room
Chario Constellation Lynx - 4-ohm, 100W Max power, 89db sensivity, 2 ways (38mm tweeter & 130mm woofer)
Listening volume no more than 11 o'clock
Current Marantz PM17 KI Signature delivers 60W at 8-ohm, 100W at 4-ohm
Is Rag an alternative?

 
The Ragnarok has the same rated power output as the Marantz, so it won't give you more sonic volume, yet due to the power output circuit (circlotron) it may provide greater sonic clarity. I found that Rag seemed, compared to the amp it replaced (Parasound A 21), to have a better "grip" on the speakers, along with improved clarity.
 
And the Ragnarok is said to be excellent with headphones, so it will serve double duty. I hope this is helpful.

 

[dmitrys10]

Guys, 
 
I just bought and installed ragnarok. When I'm using volume knob - I'm getting crazy electrical sound. 
 
This is what I have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZDEJOZW8FY&feature=youtu.be
 
Do you have the same 'behavior'?
 
thanks,
Dmitry

 

[Mr Rick]

  Guys, 
 
I just bought and installed ragnarok. When I'm using volume knob - I'm getting crazy electrical sound. 
 
This is what I have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZDEJOZW8FY&feature=youtu.be
 
Do you have the same 'behavior'?
 
thanks,
Dmitry

Working exactly as it should. 
 
In your manual:
 
5 Volume. Turn it up to increase volume, turn it down before smoke comes out of your headphones or speakers. You’ll hear rapid clicking inside the Ragnarok when you use the volume control—this is the relayswitched attenuator. When you’re switching gains, it may be a good idea to turn the volume knob down, so you don’t blow up your headphones or speakers due to a sudden gain increase.

 

[Astral Abyss]

  Guys, 
 
I just bought and installed ragnarok. When I'm using volume knob - I'm getting crazy electrical sound. 
 
This is what I have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZDEJOZW8FY&feature=youtu.be
 
Do you have the same 'behavior'?
 
thanks,
Dmitry

 
That's just the relay array that controls the volume.  I love the way it sounds.  If you go to the Schiit website and look at the circuit board for the Ragnarok, you can see the array on the right hand side of the board.  Audio-gd uses a similar setup on their amplifiers.  You can hear them clicking through the relays as you change the volume as well.

 

[dmitrys10]

Mine is not 'clicking' like electrical bad noise. If it would be clicking or soft-clicking I would not be bothered. Mine is like somebody scratch the nails against school draw board. Very annoying. Not even close to being 'clicky'. Mine sounds more like a noise of lightning between two metal rods, sort of like this
https://youtu.be/MhgSKmKX_7w?t=20

 

[Mr Rick]

  Mine is not 'clicking' like electrical bad noise. If it would be clicking or soft-clicking I would not be bothered. Mine is like somebody scratch the nails against school draw board. Very annoying. Not even close to being 'clicky'. Mine sounds more like a noise of lightning between two metal rods, sort of like this
https://youtu.be/MhgSKmKX_7w?t=20

 
Perfectly normal. You will have to like it....................or return it!!

 

[Astral Abyss]

  Mine is not 'clicking' like electrical bad noise. If it would be clicking or soft-clicking I would not be bothered. Mine is like somebody scratch the nails against school draw board. Very annoying. Not even close to being 'clicky'. Mine sounds more like a noise of lightning between two metal rods, sort of like this
https://youtu.be/MhgSKmKX_7w?t=20

 

 
That's what you're hearing.  When you spin the knob around like in your video, those relays are clicking on and off rapidly so of course it sounds louder.