Schiit Mjolnir 2 Listening Impressions
Aug 25, 2016 at 12:05 PM Post #1,337 of 6,973
Funny that, I posted yesterday I forgot about the order I made a month ago with Music Direct. It arrived this morning, very nicely packaged too, haven't seen anything like this before. 8" x 3 1/2 " x 2" white box with a photo of the tube on the top, info on the tube on the bottom of the box, and shrink wrapped, and it was in a larger cardboard box with plenty of brown paper wadded and padding. Neat!
 
Probably a few weeks before I get around to testing, too much other stuff on my "to do" list between now and the end of Sept.
 
Aug 25, 2016 at 11:24 PM Post #1,338 of 6,973
I haven't heard the Mj2 but I used to own Lyr - and now two Decware tube amps. Without question all 3 can sound vastly different with tube rolling. From posts in this thread, I'd say Mj2 is the same.

Stock tubes rarely show an amp at its best


Indeed Woo tips their hat about that..."here's an overbuilt, overpriced art object that contains an amplifier...but for even more money we can put good tubes in!"
 
Aug 26, 2016 at 4:07 AM Post #1,339 of 6,973
Glad I read through this thread, again. It reminded me to order the ifi NOS tubes. Any comments on them with the mjo2?


I've used three of the tubes in the 2C51 family, they all perform well in the MJ2.
The 5760, 396A, and 6N3P-E.

Good source for the 5760:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5670-W-2C51-New-JAN-G-E-Tube-eq-Western-Electric-396A-/380151677912?hash=item5882ce43d8:m:m9Te0p5jyAPKUc_qy1_PlTA
 
Aug 26, 2016 at 6:55 AM Post #1,340 of 6,973
I've used three of the tubes in the 2C51 family, they all perform well in the MJ2.
The 5760, 396A, and 6N3P-E.

Good source for the 5760:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5670-W-2C51-New-JAN-G-E-Tube-eq-Western-Electric-396A-/380151677912?hash=item5882ce43d8:m:m9Te0p5jyAPKUc_qy1_PlTA

What are you using for an adaptor?
 
Aug 26, 2016 at 9:22 AM Post #1,341 of 6,973
What are you using for an adaptor?


This:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191636111735?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

These are good quality; I have a couple pair that are for rolling, testing, comparing; no issues. Matched sets on the burn or in rotation have dedicated adapters, that way the adapters remain very tight on the tube. The adapter will come out with tube when removing the tube from the Schit amps.
 
Aug 27, 2016 at 7:34 PM Post #1,342 of 6,973
I've used three of the tubes in the 2C51 family, they all perform well in the MJ2.
The 5760, 396A, and 6N3P-E.

Good source for the 5760:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5670-W-2C51-New-JAN-G-E-Tube-eq-Western-Electric-396A-/380151677912?hash=item5882ce43d8:m:m9Te0p5jyAPKUc_qy1_PlTA


I'm very interested in trying out a 396A tube in my MJ2. Reading this listing sounds like the 5760 would be a good alternative. Are these usually matched well? I see he doesn't have a matching service. Just wondering how much of a concern that is.
 
Aug 27, 2016 at 8:25 PM Post #1,343 of 6,973
I'm very interested in trying out a 396A tube in my MJ2. Reading this listing sounds like the 5760 would be a good alternative. Are these usually matched well? I see he doesn't have a matching service. Just wondering how much of a concern that is.


I think it should probably be fine. Just make sure to get the right adapter.
 
Aug 28, 2016 at 3:43 PM Post #1,344 of 6,973
 
I'm very interested in trying out a 396A tube in my MJ2. Reading this listing sounds like the 5760 would be a good alternative. Are these usually matched well? I see he doesn't have a matching service. Just wondering how much of a concern that is.

 
No that seller for the 5760s is not selling matched tubes, but they are true NOS in original boxes. Really nice tubes. Incredible price.
In the past I have used used some NOS tubes from the same batch without matching, no apparent harm done. After I starting matching tubes, I tested some of the pairs, found some were already well matched, some were within 10%. Obviously if a tube has noise, choose another. If you notice channel imbalance, switch the tubes channel to channel, if the imbalance follows the tube switch then choose another tube. That process was done with my Lyr and Valhalla, the tubes I have used in my MJ2 were matched pairs. I have countless matched pairs so no need to go there with the MJ2.
 
There is a seller currently selling some 396As that have test numbers listed, about $65 each. Yes, the WE 396A is a really fine tube. However, if you cannot find a well matched pair, not to worry, go for the Reflector 6N3P-E, in my opinion this is the better tube. I would rank them RE 6N3P-E > WE 396A > GE JAN 5670W.
 
Let me know if you want the Ebay seller for the 396A. Also, if you want a matched pair of the 5670 and can't find a suitable seller, let me know and I'll send you a matched pair from that seller at the same cost, I'll never use all the ones I have. I think they were $4. Get the adapter first because that will take longer in shipping.
 
Aug 28, 2016 at 3:57 PM Post #1,345 of 6,973
   
No that seller for the 5760s is not selling matched tubes, but they are true NOS in original boxes. Really nice tubes. Incredible price.
In the past I have used used some NOS tubes from the same batch without matching, no apparent harm done. After I starting matching tubes, I tested some of the pairs, found some were already well matched, some were within 10%. Obviously if a tube has noise, choose another. If you notice channel imbalance, switch the tubes channel to channel, if the imbalance follows the tube switch then choose another tube. That process was done with my Lyr and Valhalla, the tubes I have used in my MJ2 were matched pairs. I have countless matched pairs so no need to go there with the MJ2.
 
There is a seller currently selling some 396As that have test numbers listed, about $65 each. Yes, the WE 396A is a really fine tube. However, if you cannot find a well matched pair, not to worry, go for the Reflector 6N3P-E, in my opinion this is the better tube. I would rank them RE 6N3P-E > WE 396A > GE JAN 5670W.
 
Let me know if you want the Ebay seller for the 396A. Also, if you want a matched pair of the 5670 and can't find a suitable seller, let me know and I'll send you a matched pair from that seller at the same cost, I'll never use all the ones I have. I think they were $4. Get the adapter first because that will take longer in shipping.


Next dumb question. Does the Reflector require an adapter? If so, is it the same as the 396A?
 
I've seen the listing for those matched 396As I think, but $65 per is a bit out of my budget at the moment (saving for a new 34" ultra wide screen monitor, upgrade for Gungnir and Ether Cs).
 
Aug 28, 2016 at 4:12 PM Post #1,346 of 6,973
 
Next dumb question. Does the Reflector require an adapter? If so, is it the same as the 396A?
 
I've seen the listing for those matched 396As I think, but $65 per is a bit out of my budget at the moment (saving for a new 34" ultra wide screen monitor, upgrade for Gungnir and Ether Cs).

Yes, note that the auction includes reference to "6N3" in the title:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191636111735?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
However, Note that the tube you want is the 6N3P-E Reflector, there are a few different variations of this tube.
 
Aug 28, 2016 at 10:13 PM Post #1,347 of 6,973
  Yes, note that the auction includes reference to "6N3" in the title:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191636111735?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
However, Note that the tube you want is the 6N3P-E Reflector, there are a few different variations of this tube.

Ahh, I missed that, thank you for your patient instruction. I'm getting there. I ordered the adapters. I'm cautiously shopping for some tubes. I will probably post some ebay listings to ask for advice if that's ok.
 
I really have to get to building something to make turning the MJ2 off and on again easier and a mute box to cut sound off to my studio monitors. Sure wish the MJ2 would mute when headphones are connected. It's honestly my only complaint about this awesome amp.
 
Aug 29, 2016 at 1:16 AM Post #1,348 of 6,973
Hey there, I am in the market for a balanced amp as I'm pretty curious about running the HD800s with their balanced cable.
 
The Mjolnir is an obvious choice as the price is right, and I happen to have some pretty good 6922 tubes hidden away. 
 
I did have the Lyr and I didn't like it much. I found it to have a hot and fuzzy unresolved sound that always made me think I was missing something.
 
So the question I have is where does the Mjolnir 2 lie in regards to the old Lyr? Thanks for any comments as there is no easy way for me to demo the Mjolnir 2 short of ordering one.
 
Aug 29, 2016 at 2:46 AM Post #1,349 of 6,973
  Ahh, I missed that, thank you for your patient instruction. I'm getting there. I ordered the adapters. I'm cautiously shopping for some tubes. I will probably post some ebay listings to ask for advice if that's ok.
 
I really have to get to building something to make turning the MJ2 off and on again easier and a mute box to cut sound off to my studio monitors. Sure wish the MJ2 would mute when headphones are connected. It's honestly my only complaint about this awesome amp.


Hmm, what if your MJ2 SE output went into a SYS, which you could either switch (to the empty channel) or turn down to zero as necessary? I'm not yet in a place where SYS makes sense, but if I ever get into Vinyl, that will change.
 
Aug 29, 2016 at 11:37 AM Post #1,350 of 6,973
 
Hmm, what if your MJ2 SE output went into a SYS, which you could either switch (to the empty channel) or turn down to zero as necessary? I'm not yet in a place where SYS makes sense, but if I ever get into Vinyl, that will change.


The consensus was to use the balanced outs to my monitors. I need a balanced SYS, you hear that Jason?!?
 

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