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Jun 4, 2014 at 6:56 PM Post #2,176 of 23,494
This thread made me buy a matched pair of Siemens CCa from 1963 for 185 bucks. I put them in to check them to make sure they weren't bad or noisy and they sounded really nice, then I put my 6n23p's back in.
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 7:34 PM Post #2,178 of 23,494
On these E88CC from UpScale Audio. I thought it might be good to share what shows up, after ordering. Here is the one I got. I ordered the Gold - the sections match within 6.5%. Very good. On their website the more expensive Platinum is supposed to be within 10%.

So these were matched better then Platinum, for Gold prices. They were rated A for Noise and A for Microphonics. Pretty happy with what he sent.

 
Jun 4, 2014 at 7:39 PM Post #2,179 of 23,494
Siemens sound really good when my music was recorded right, but for general overall listening, I like the 6n23p. I don't get listening fatigue with them at all, I do with Amperex OG's. I am using my brother's lyr and he has a pair of regular Siemens 6dj8 in there that sound nice too, really clean sound and warmer than I thought they would be.
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 9:34 PM Post #2,180 of 23,494
nykobing said:
Siemens sound really good when my music was recorded right, but for general overall listening, I like the 6n23p. I don't get listening fatigue with them at all, I do with Amperex OG's. I am using my brother's lyr and he has a pair of regular Siemens 6dj8 in there that sound nice too, really clean sound and warmer than I thought they would be.
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Same for the excellent E88CC Tele '60s. Really nice tone, not dry like other Teles I've heard.

I had a nice collection of S&H CCas years ago, when I stumbled onto the 6n23p Voskhod Rockets. I sold the CCas.
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 9:53 PM Post #2,181 of 23,494
Been listening to the CCa's all night. They do have a lot better seperation and sound better than my 6n23ps that I don't know the year of, some 1971 - 1975 model, they also sound a lot better than the 1978 silver shield I got from you. I'm was using the strange colored 6n23p's, they tested fine at the guitar shop by my house, I figured burn them up first.
 

 
 
These are the CCa's I bought
 


 
 
He has another pair for sale for 130 euros, trying to convince myself I don't need a back up.
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 10:44 PM Post #2,183 of 23,494
nykobing said:
Been listening to the CCa's all night. They do have a lot better seperation and sound better than my 6n23ps that I don't know the year of, some 1971 - 1975 model, they also sound a lot better than the 1978 silver shield I got from you. I'm was using the strange colored 6n23p's, they tested fine at the guitar shop by my house, I figured burn them up first.





These are the CCa's I bought







He has another pair for sale for 130 euros, trying to convince myself I don't need a back up.
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Yeah, I prefer the SWGP 6n23ps to the plate posts, althougth some like the plate posts greateŗ bass. Too bad they never put date codes on those. It would be good to have a matched pair. It's good they tested well - at least you can match by outputs. :). Amazing a $12 pr of 6n23ps can complete with a $180 pr of CCas.
 
Jun 5, 2014 at 7:51 AM Post #2,184 of 23,494
Just picked up a pair of the Telefunken E88CC platinum grade tubes from Upscale Audio. Seemed to be a great deal. I'm looking forward to trying these out in my Lyr with a pair of HD650s. 
 
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/telefunken-e88cc-6922/
 
At this point, I'll be comparing the Telefunken tubes with:
 
  1. 1958 Amperex Bugle Boy (D Getter)
  2. 1969 Amperex PQ (orange label, shield, gold pin)
  3. 1978 Voskhod 6N23P (Kaluga factory)
 
So far, I'm liking the Voskhod tubes the best, but I'll know for sure after the Telefunken tubes arrive. Will post my thoughts later.
 
Jun 5, 2014 at 8:00 AM Post #2,185 of 23,494
rb2013 said:
On these E88CC from UpScale Audio. I thought it might be good to share what shows up, after ordering. Here is the one I got. I ordered the Gold - the sections match within 6.5%. Very good. On their website the more expensive Platinum is supposed to be within 10%.

So these were matched better then Platinum, for Gold prices. They were rated A for Noise and A for Microphonics. Pretty happy with what he sent.

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Kevin's description on the Upscale website,"97% of these test Platinum or better", so I ordered Gold like you. However my pair were:T1-11500,T2-14200 and T1-11700,T2-14800, noise and microphonics "A". Just the luck of the draw so to speak. So for my backup pair I just ordered a couple days ago I specified Platinum. BTW, what is the math equation you use to derive % matched? My favorite recording at the moment that really shows the micro-details these Tele's reproduce is Pat Metheny's "Unity Band" His drummer, Antonio Sanchez is amazing, master of the cymbals! There is a lot going on in this album, and other tubes I have used sound congested compared to the Tele's. It is very complex straight ahead Jazz, not to everyone's liking. It won the Grammy Award last year for Best Jazz Recording. satwilson
 
Jun 5, 2014 at 8:15 AM Post #2,186 of 23,494
mwillits said:
  Just picked up a pair of the Telefunken E88CC platinum grade tubes from Upscale Audio. Seemed to be a great deal. I'm looking forward to trying these out in my Lyr with a pair of HD650s. 
 
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/telefunken-e88cc-6922/
 
At this point, I'll be comparing the Telefunken tubes with:
 
  1. 1958 Amperex Bugle Boy (D Getter)
  2. 1969 Amperex PQ (orange label, shield, gold pin)
  3. 1978 Voskhod 6N23P (Kaluga factory)
 
So far, I'm liking the Voskhod tubes the best, but I'll know for sure after the Telefunken tubes arrive. Will post my thoughts later.
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I think you are in for a real treat with the Telefunken's I have about 100hrs on mine now, fantastic sounding tubes.
 
Jun 5, 2014 at 10:12 AM Post #2,188 of 23,494
tuco1965 said:
  This thread is like Slim Fast for the wallet.
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LMAO.  I'll just tell my wife I'm going on a diet, then she can't complain when I finally buy the Teles 
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Jun 5, 2014 at 10:18 AM Post #2,189 of 23,494
tuco1965 said:
  This thread is like Slim Fast for the wallet.
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Tell me about it.... in 2 weeks....
 
3 Pairs of Teles - 700$
 
Moon audio Black dragon v2 10ft - 350$
 
Paul Pangs USB - 130$
 
Bifrost USB Upgrade - 100$
 
Massively improved headphone setup - Priceless 
 
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