[tvnosaint]

I listen to unique music . That does help but thanks Billy. The band I saw in Italy this summer were kinda made for these tubes ( both the bigguns) Hugo Race and the fatalists lps imbue the atmosphere with psychedelics riding a western inspired maelstrom . The rhythm section anchors everything solidly to terra firma. Beautiful stuff.i imagine the same would hold true for post war torch singers and jazz ensembles.

 

[billerb1]

I listen to unique music . That does help but thanks Billy. The band I saw in Italy this summer were kinda made for these tubes ( both the bigguns) Hugo Race and the fatalists lps imbue the atmosphere with psychedelics riding a western inspired maelstrom . The rhythm section anchors everything solidly to terra firma. Beautiful stuff.i imagine the same would hold true for post war torch singers and jazz ensembles.

Oh. I thought maybe your writing style was just the result of drinking Mississippi River water your whole life. I was way off track.

 

[tvnosaint]

Not by itself. Gotta put alcohol in it to dissolve the solids. Nice try pot smoking Oregon hippy. Ya must've dreamed that one up while foraging for shrooms. Just kidding, we've all got our crosses to bear. These stigmas define us to the outside world.

 

[TK16]

Oh. I thought maybe your writing style was just the result of drinking Mississippi River water your whole life. I was way off track.

That sounds like the Hudson Bay in Bayonne, NJ. Just a couple swims when I was a kid did me in. Did not even drink the water. Scarred me for life. Saw a 3 eyed fish when I was young and never went back.

 

[thecrow]

A LIttle off topic but foe those who are looking to hear what their tube rolling offers i have across tbe two following cd’s on the elear thread that are pretty rich in the lower end. New to me. Perhaps old news for yourselves.

1) the time machine soundtrack

2) this cd


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[kolkoo]

Alright boys MJ2 + Saga ordered. Once I get them I will be auditioning my entire collection again to see how it goes.

Namely my tube stash at the moment:

(PW = Pinched Waist)
2C51 family:
1) LM Ericsson 2C51 Steel pins
2) LM Ericsson 2C51 Gold pins
3) Tesla 6CC42 PW
4) CBS JHY 5670
5) GE 3Mica 5670
6) WE 396A - 3 pairs , late 40s, mid 50s, mid 50s - JW
7) Tong-sol JTL-2C51
8) 6N3P
9) 6N3P-E

6DJ8/7DJ8 Family
1) Mullard Mitcham E88CC - O-getter grey shield late 50s/early 60s
2) Philips Eindhoven E88CC D-Getter PW - 1955/1956
3) Philips Heerlen E88CC D-Getter PW - 1957/1958
4) Philips Heerlen E88CC D-Getter 7L4 - 1959
5) Telefunken E88CC Fat ring O-getter gold rods - late 50s
6) Telefunken E188CC 1966
7) Siemens CCa 1965 and E88CC 62/63
8) Siemens E188CC mid 60s
9) Lorenz Stuttgart PCC88 2mica
10) Mullard Mitcham E88CC O-Getter late 60s
11) Philips Heerlen PCC88 D-Getter PW 1957/ 1958
12) Philips Heerlen PCC88 D-Getter 1957/ 1958
13) Philips Heerlen ECC88 D-Getter 1957/ 1958 /1959
14) Valvo Hamburg PCC88 D-getter PW 1957
15) Valvo Hamburg PCC88 D-getter 1958
16) 6N23P 1975/1974 HGs
17) Mullard blackburn ECC88 1964
18) Mullard blackburn PCC88 1967
19) Tungsram PCC88 60s
20) Ei PCC88 60s
21) Valvo Hamburg O-getter early 60s
22) Valvo Hamburg E88CC O-Getter mid 60s
23) Philips E188CC O-getter 1961/1962 (Dario Miniwatt Yellow Print)
24) Valvo CCa yellows - 1962 and 1969 pairs
25) Valvo CCa whites - early 60s and late 60s/early 70s
26) Philips Suresnes E188CC - mid 60s
27) Siemens PCC88 O-getter early 60s
28) Telefunken E88CC early 60s Fat getter silver rods
29) Some other PCC88 / 6N23Ps that are not as famous

Hopefully I can get through this list with my now pretty decent stack and share impressions

 

[billerb1]

That would be one helluva Shootout, Ivan. Will very much look forward to it !!!
Congrats on the new gear !!!

 

[koover]

Alright boys MJ2 + Saga ordered. Once I get them I will be auditioning my entire collection again to see how it goes.

Namely my tube stash at the moment:

(PW = Pinched Waist)
2C51 family:
1) LM Ericsson 2C51 Steel pins
2) LM Ericsson 2C51 Gold pins
3) Tesla 6CC42 PW
4) CBS JHY 5670
5) GE 3Mica 5670
6) WE 396A - 3 pairs , late 40s, mid 50s, mid 50s - JW
7) Tong-sol JTL-2C51
8) 6N3P
9) 6N3P-E

6DJ8/7DJ8 Family
1) Mullard Mitcham E88CC - O-getter grey shield late 50s/early 60s
2) Philips Eindhoven E88CC D-Getter PW - 1955/1956
3) Philips Heerlen E88CC D-Getter PW - 1957/1958
4) Philips Heerlen E88CC D-Getter 7L4 - 1959
5) Telefunken E88CC Fat ring O-getter gold rods - late 50s
6) Telefunken E188CC 1966
7) Siemens CCa 1965 and E88CC 62/63
8) Siemens E188CC mid 60s
9) Lorenz Stuttgart PCC88 2mica
10) Mullard Mitcham E88CC O-Getter late 60s
11) Philips Heerlen PCC88 D-Getter PW 1957/ 1958
12) Philips Heerlen PCC88 D-Getter 1957/ 1958
13) Philips Heerlen ECC88 D-Getter 1957/ 1958 /1959
14) Valvo Hamburg PCC88 D-getter PW 1957
15) Valvo Hamburg PCC88 D-getter 1958
16) 6N23P 1975/1974 HGs
17) Mullard blackburn ECC88 1964
18) Mullard blackburn PCC88 1967
19) Tungsram PCC88 60s
20) Ei PCC88 60s
21) Valvo Hamburg O-getter early 60s
22) Valvo Hamburg E88CC O-Getter mid 60s
23) Philips E188CC O-getter 1961/1962 (Dario Miniwatt Yellow Print)
24) Valvo CCa yellows - 1962 and 1969 pairs
25) Valvo CCa whites - early 60s and late 60s/early 70s
26) Philips Suresnes E188CC - mid 60s
27) Siemens PCC88 O-getter early 60s
28) Telefunken E88CC early 60s Fat getter silver rods
29) Some other PCC88 / 6N23Ps that are not as famous

Hopefully I can get through this list with my now pretty decent stack and share impressions

Noob question. I think it will, but is this adapter (below) conducive with all the tubes you listed in your post? I’ve read quite a bit but just want to “see/hear it” real-time from the experts. I made that 1 huge mistake once and don’t want to repeat it.

Plug Play NOVIB Socket Saver©-1960s NOS British McMurdo Phenolic socket on Top plus Vibration Reduction Base - 9-pin B9A NOVAL

 

[kolkoo]

Noob question. I think it will, but is this adapter (below) conducive with all the tubes you listed in your post? I’ve read quite a bit but just want to “see/hear it” real-time from the experts. I made that 1 huge mistake once and don’t want to repeat it.

Plug Play NOVIB Socket Saver©-1960s NOS British McMurdo Phenolic socket on Top plus Vibration Reduction Base - 9-pin B9A NOVAL

That's not an adapter but a socker saver. It allows you to lift up the tube sockets of your Lyr2/Mjolnir2/Vali etc so you can swap the tubes easily.
And it works with all the tubes in the 6DJ8/7DJ8 Family.

For all 2C51 family tubes listed above you need an actual adapter like this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/191636111735 (personally I have bought 4 of these exact ones and all work fine after tons of rolls).

So if you have socket savers installed and you want to roll 2C51 you will have to use both at the same time.

 

[koover]

That's not an adapter but a socker saver. It allows you to lift up the tube sockets of your Lyr2/Mjolnir2/Vali etc so you can swap the tubes easily.
And it works with all the tubes in the 6DJ8/7DJ8 Family.

For all 2C51 family tubes listed above you need an actual adapter like this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/191636111735 (personally I have bought 4 of these exact ones and all work fine after tons of rolls).

So if you have socket savers installed and you want to roll 2C51 you will have to use both at the same time.

Damn, I do have an adapter but with my limited knowledge, for the life of me, I can’t remember the name and type it is.
I’ll have to look at it later tonight when I get home from work and repost. Thanx for the quick replay bro!

 

[TK16]

That is the adapter I sent you bro, only for the 2C51 family of tubes.

 

[Phantaminum]

Alright boys MJ2 + Saga ordered. Once I get them I will be auditioning my entire collection again to see how it goes.

Namely my tube stash at the moment:

(PW = Pinched Waist)
2C51 family:
1) LM Ericsson 2C51 Steel pins
2) LM Ericsson 2C51 Gold pins
3) Tesla 6CC42 PW
4) CBS JHY 5670
5) GE 3Mica 5670
6) WE 396A - 3 pairs , late 40s, mid 50s, mid 50s - JW
7) Tong-sol JTL-2C51
8) 6N3P
9) 6N3P-E

6DJ8/7DJ8 Family
1) Mullard Mitcham E88CC - O-getter grey shield late 50s/early 60s
2) Philips Eindhoven E88CC D-Getter PW - 1955/1956
3) Philips Heerlen E88CC D-Getter PW - 1957/1958
4) Philips Heerlen E88CC D-Getter 7L4 - 1959
5) Telefunken E88CC Fat ring O-getter gold rods - late 50s
6) Telefunken E188CC 1966
7) Siemens CCa 1965 and E88CC 62/63
8) Siemens E188CC mid 60s
9) Lorenz Stuttgart PCC88 2mica
10) Mullard Mitcham E88CC O-Getter late 60s
11) Philips Heerlen PCC88 D-Getter PW 1957/ 1958
12) Philips Heerlen PCC88 D-Getter 1957/ 1958
13) Philips Heerlen ECC88 D-Getter 1957/ 1958 /1959
14) Valvo Hamburg PCC88 D-getter PW 1957
15) Valvo Hamburg PCC88 D-getter 1958
16) 6N23P 1975/1974 HGs
17) Mullard blackburn ECC88 1964
18) Mullard blackburn PCC88 1967
19) Tungsram PCC88 60s
20) Ei PCC88 60s
21) Valvo Hamburg O-getter early 60s
22) Valvo Hamburg E88CC O-Getter mid 60s
23) Philips E188CC O-getter 1961/1962 (Dario Miniwatt Yellow Print)
24) Valvo CCa yellows - 1962 and 1969 pairs
25) Valvo CCa whites - early 60s and late 60s/early 70s
26) Philips Suresnes E188CC - mid 60s
27) Siemens PCC88 O-getter early 60s
28) Telefunken E88CC early 60s Fat getter silver rods
29) Some other PCC88 / 6N23Ps that are not as famous

Hopefully I can get through this list with my now pretty decent stack and share impressions

Now that would be an amazing shoot out! I do love the Tungsram PCC88 with my HD650s. They sound fantastic together.

Another question for you guys. How long do you usually burn in your 2C51s? I've been burning in my TungSol D-Getters and right now I have them at around 25-30 hours.

 

[Guidostrunk]

They continued to open up to about the 80 hour mark in my experience. I didn't notice much change after that. Things get more focused in imaging, dimensional and bass presence gets fuller with more slam. With that said. YMMV.

Now that would be an amazing shoot out! I do love the Tungsram PCC88 with my HD650s. They sound fantastic together.

Another question for you guys. How long do you usually burn in your 2C51s? I've been burning in my TungSol D-Getters and right now I have them at around 25-30 hours.

 

[Guidostrunk]

The realism of the TS2c51 is simply stunning. With all the rolling I've done this past few months, they're , without question, my favorite tube. I'll put the TS6c8g a close second.

I love the space of the TS6c8g. I never thought my 560's could do senn type soundstage, but the engagement factor and realism just falls a little short of the 2c51.

The 2c51 for me is the complete package.

 

[koover]

That is the adapter I sent you bro, only for the 2C51 family of tubes.

Awesome thank you
Looks like that list has many tubes I can look into. The bottom portion of that list are mostly e88cc variants which are perfect, so I’ve got some reviewing to do.