ilikepooters
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Tubes for dt990? Or dt880
Aren't the Beyers known for being a bit "bright" in the high end? If you're looking to soften the treble then some Mullard ECC88 (British made) should do the trick.
Tubes for dt990? Or dt880
Bob...are you saying that you remember the 70's? That whole decade is a bit foggy to me.
Yes, quality audio is expensive...and so are Harleys. The best things in life aren't cheap, are they?
Cheers!
Tubes for dt990? Or dt880
I got a question or two for the experts among us:
I have bought a mixture of tubes of a certain brand which are not necessarily matched - Will unmatched tubes just sound e.g. unbalanced, or will it cause some damage to the Lyr and/or my ears? Is it imperative that tubes are matched? They are, apparently, tested.
The question is physically matched or electrically matched? If they are all the same brand-type and different years, say a one - four year spread, and are close electrically, you probably won't notice a difference. If two tubes are far apart electrically, you may notice channel imbalance, different noise levels, or different tonality, among other things. You are not likely to break anything unless a tube is a dead short. It's not uncommon to find OEM tubes marked with company names, like HP, etc. One can buy tubes with different labels (but same manufacturer) and end up with an electrically matched pair.
Secondly, are all genuine NOS tubes from same brand and same batch / year going to have similar enough measurements without specifically matching them?
You are most likely good to go. Rotate them in and listen for channel imbalance. If you can't hear any, don't worry about it an enjoy the tubes. If you do, swap one out for another until it's gone. Then repeat; this is 'ear matching.'
I buy tubes from Russia that aren't specified as matched, and they are perfect. It also depends on the tube you purchase. For example, a 6N1P-EV is specd' and tested for consistency, tube per tube, by the manufacturer (in my case the USSR of 1978), and they are ALL of the same output and triode balance if new. Same goes for tubes like 7308s (tight-spec 6DJ8).
(Please excuse the fact that I have no electronics knowledge (was always a mental block for me at school). I have also spent many hours reading the old thread, and have not come across an answer, but that does not mean to say it ain't there... )
Thanks in advance
so are these the famous orange globes people keep talking about? http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMPEREX-BUGLE-BOY-6DJ8-ECC88-VACUUM-TUBE-1964-O-GETTER-MATCH-PAIR-SWEET-TONE-4F1-/221289744658
No, those are Bugle Boys.
Here are the Orange Globes:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMPEREX-ORANGE-GLOBE-6DJ8-ECC88-VACUUM-TUBE-1968-MATCHED-PAIR-SWEET-SMOOTH-TONE-/321223988866?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4aca711682
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AWESOME-AMPEREX-ORANGE-GLOBE-6DJ8-ECC88-VACUUM-TUBE-1967-MATCHED-PAIR-/321222319557?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4aca579dc5
That seller is trusted, BTW.
Cheers, JC
No, those are Bugle Boys.
Here are the Orange Globes:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMPEREX-ORANGE-GLOBE-6DJ8-ECC88-VACUUM-TUBE-1968-MATCHED-PAIR-SWEET-SMOOTH-TONE-/321223988866?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4aca711682
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AWESOME-AMPEREX-ORANGE-GLOBE-6DJ8-ECC88-VACUUM-TUBE-1967-MATCHED-PAIR-/321222319557?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4aca579dc5
That seller is trusted, BTW.
Cheers, JC
I got a question or two for the experts among us:
I have bought a mixture of tubes of a certain brand which are not necessarily matched - Will unmatched tubes just sound e.g. unbalanced, or will it cause some damage to the Lyr and/or my ears? Is it imperative that tubes are matched? They are, apparently, tested.
Secondly, are all genuine NOS tubes from same brand and same batch / year going to have similar enough measurements without specifically matching them?
(Please excuse the fact that I have no electronics knowledge (was always a mental block for me at school). I have also spent many hours reading the old thread, and have not come across an answer, but that does not mean to say it ain't there... )
Thanks in advance
Short Answer: u need a tube tester!
Long answer: even NOS tubes from the same production batch and factory can vary by over 20%. In the golden age of audio, such a variance was still acceptable.
Unless u test the tubes using a tube tester, statistically speaking, the odds are against you when u try to get matched tubes based on similar date / production codes.
Different tonality applies when you mix tubes in the l/r channel of different brands or of the same brand but made in different factories or production years.
Channel imbalance applies when your left or right tube have different tube gain because they are not matched.
Instrument separation is a function of channel balance so this audio property will be adversely affected too.
Whether you can hear any channel imbalance or not is dependent on the sensitivity of
(A) your equipment
(B) your hearing
BTW, There are some tube sellers on Ebay who offer Amplitrex tube tester services for a few $$$ per tube.