[fotomeow]

Both, sound better and very rare.

cool. I would def like to try them in the Lyr.
I think I can also roll them into a pair of DIY tubed monos that I built

 

[AuditoryCanvas]

Thank you. I didnt know I could add an adaptor for ECC81/82's, will consider. I've always been a bit weary
of using adaptors for QC reasons- adding another device in the chain. I do actually have two pair of NOS 12AU7s that I'm not using
right now (originally bought for a PrimaLuna KT88 integrated tube amp): Mullard CV4003/M8136s and Brimars as well.

But I'm interested in what you said about other cheaper options: "1-3 times cheaper than their 6922 equivalents".
B/c the Mullards and Brimars were expensive. If I can get that same Mullard/Brimar sound at 1/3 the price of the $120 Mullards,
then it sounds good to me.

I've bought tubes in the past mostly from Upscale Audio and TubeDepot, but now have been buying from Brent Jesse's AudioTubes the last year.

Where do you suggest getting the adaptors you quoted? Good quality?
Also, I might be interested in your tubes for sale, but would need to know more about the SQ of each.
Gary

I said top shelf ones can be 1-3 times cheaper than their counterparts, but you can still dow well for $40-$50.

I recommend something like the Valvo 6201 for approx. $100 a pair for a good solid all round tube, that will sound better (to my ears) than something like Telefunken E88CC, but maybe just try the ECC82s you have already before buying more.

Here's the adapters - per unit, so order two: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Valve-T...h=item3f97d0291b:g:zWcAAOSwu4haueAn:rk:3:pf:0

 

[TK16]

cool. I would def like to try them in the Lyr.
I think I can also roll them into a pair of DIY tubed monos that I built

Did you buy those Russian 6N3P? If you did you need a different adapter for them.

 

[Wes S]

Sorry, I didn't read all 1334 pages to see if this great issue of VTV has been dug up with the Way Back Machine. Great read, as are all volumes of VTV available on the WBM.

https://web.archive.org/web/2013112.../Pioneering-Wireless/eMagazines/VTV/VTV07.pdf

BTW... This is what I run in my lil Vali 2. I have zero complaints but finding a matched set is getting harder. I love Mullard - have for many, many years. I use Brent Jessee Recording and Supply, Inc. (Hoffman Estates, IL) for most my audiophile tubes. He does extensive testing and matching on all his tubes and I am assured that my premium price is backed up by his work put in to test them - can't always say that with Ebay and even some other big tube sellers.

E88CC / 6922 (premium 6DJ8) Mullard old shield logo or white label, made in Great Britain, gold pins.

New Old Stock White Box and original box. Rare UK made old shield logo 6922 tubes from the 1960s. These are the most difficult to find in the 6922 NOS family. Ultra low noise, matched triode sections, heavily plated gold pins. Nice Mullard British made 6922 goldpin vintage tubes, difficult to find in the USA. Hand matched into pairs. Very musical and quiet tubes. Some are made for Philips with the SQ label, or other brands but all have the Mullard factory date codes. SINGLES are $115 each when available.

http://www.audiotubes.com/

I am not a fan a Brent Jesse and think he gets a good rep, just for his website. I have had several issues, with the last 2 orders i placed with him, and I am done. He sent me a cracked base and noisy microphonic Kenrad 6sn7gt black glass, that i paid a premium for and I returned it. Before that, I ordered a RCA grey glass 1940's and ended up getting a National Union grey glass, which I ended up keeping, but was not what I ordered. Seems he should know the difference, or was he just trying to pass off, a tube he thought I would not know, the differences? Tube World and Upscale Audio, are better.

 

[koover]

I am not a fan a Brent Jesse and think he gets a good rep, just for his website. I have had several issues, with the last 2 orders i placed with him, and I am done. He sent me a cracked base and noisy microphonic Kenrad 6sn7gt black glass, that i paid a premium for and I returned it. Before that, I ordered a RCA grey glass 1940's and ended up getting a National Union grey glass, which I ended up keeping. Seems he should know the difference, or was he just trying to pass off, a tube he thought I would not know, the differences? Tube World and Upscale Audio, are better.

I always thought he was expensive and chalked it up to his cred.

 

[Wes S]

I always thought he was expensive and chalked it up to his cred.

Sorry for that rant! I just get fired up, every time I see someone praising him. Happy Friday

 

[koover]

Sorry for that rant! I just get fired up, every time I see someone praising him. Happy Friday

That ain't no rant bro! Read one of my posts sometimes and you'll understand what a rant is. LOL. You have that right to be PO'd if you got inferior products. Unless a UPS/FedEx/USPS driver just chucked the boxes around like a fastball, you should NEVER receive damaged goods when it's glass!

 

[Wes S]

That ain't no rant bro! Read one of my posts sometimes and you'll understand what a rant is. LOL. You have that right to be PO'd if you got inferior products. Unless a UPS/FedEx/USPS driver just chucked the boxes around like a fastball, you should NEVER receive damaged goods when it's glass!

Ha Ha. I manage a mailroom and deal with USPS, Fedex, and UPS, on a daily basis, and know how they handle packages. However with the boxes from Brent, they were not damaged at all, so the blame is on him.

 

[Wes S]

Both, sound better and very rare.

So how do these triple mica sound, compared to the WE396A or Tung Sol 2C51? I have not heard a triple mica, yet. . .

 

[TK16]

I am not a fan a Brent Jesse and think he gets a good rep, just for his website. I have had several issues, with the last 2 orders i placed with him, and I am done. He sent me a cracked base and noisy microphonic Kenrad 6sn7gt black glass, that i paid a premium for and I returned it. Before that, I ordered a RCA grey glass 1940's and ended up getting a National Union grey glass, which I ended up keeping, but was not what I ordered. Seems he should know the difference, or was he just trying to pass off, a tube he thought I would not know, the differences? Tube World and Upscale Audio, are better.

Bought 1 pair of Mullard E88CC for around $230 from Brent and it was no better testing wise than the back up I bought on eBay that was much cheaper. They are both good testing pair with no noise/microphonics or shorts, gas. Last time I bought from him. Way too pricey.

The triple mica Reflektor/Foton are far better to my ears than those tubes, suck at describing what I hear. Tung Sol have killer midrange but I find them bass lite. The WE are still in my top 10 tubes, but they were number 1 before I listened to the triple mica, Tesla 6CC41 square getters, Valvo 6201 PW Hamburg, Mitcham 6201 gold pin, ECC81 Blackburn square getter, ECC82 Blackburn square getter. Currently I think the Blackburn ECC82 square getter are my number 1 all time or top 3.

Bare in mind that the 6N2P, 6CC41, ECC81, and 6201 won't work right in the LP, if at all probably due to the high amplification factor 70. This is the reason why I'm keeping the MJ2.

 

[fotomeow]

Did you buy those Russian 6N3P? If you did you need a different adapter for them.

I always thought he was expensive and chalked it up to his cred.

Bought 1 pair of Mullard E88CC for around $230 from Brent and it was no better testing wise than the back up I bought on eBay that was much cheaper. They are both good testing pair with no noise/microphonics or shorts, gas. Last time I bought from him. Way too pricey.

The triple mica Reflektor/Foton are far better to my ears than those tubes, suck at describing what I hear. Tung Sol have killer midrange but I find them bass lite. The WE are still in my top 10 tubes, but they were number 1 before I listened to the triple mica, Tesla 6CC41 square getters, Valvo 6201 PW Hamburg, Mitcham 6201 gold pin, ECC81 Blackburn square getter, ECC82 Blackburn square getter. Currently I think the Blackburn ECC82 square getter are my number 1 all time or top 3.

Bare in mind that the 6N2P, 6CC41, ECC81, and 6201 won't work right if at all probably due to the high amplification factor 70. This is the reason why I'm keeping the MJ2.

TK16: Nope, didnt buy it, not yet anyway. Will wait or hope for a matched pair. Thx for the explanation of sonic attributes r/t the tubes above, very helpful
Also, despite not having an issue with Brent Jesse after 2-3 orders of 6 tubes, his prices are a good 10-20% cheaper than Upscale, and better than TubeDepot IMO.

Koover: if you dont like Brent Jesse, where do you buy from?

In general:
Tubes are finicky things - easily damaged. Just return and exchange them. Unless it keeps happening, as someone pointed out.
I'd rather buy through a tube specialist than roll the dice on eBay.
Unless some of you have found reliable eBay sellers- please share.

I've haven't felt confident in ordering from TubeWorld, it seems like their tube volumes are low, like they fished the single tubes and pairs out of an industrial garbage can. Dont get me wrong, I would fish NOS tubes out of the garbage for my own use, but not if I was selling bigger volumes on the net.

 

[Wes S]

TK16: Nope, didnt buy it, not yet anyway. Will wait or hope for a matched pair. Thx for the explanation of sonic attributes r/t the tubes above, very helpful
Also, despite not having an issue with Brent Jesse after 2-3 orders of 6 tubes, his prices are a good 10-20% cheaper than Upscale, and better than TubeDepot IMO.

In general:
Tubes are finicky things - easily damaged. Just return and exchange them. Unless it keeps happening, as someone pointed out.
I'd rather buy through a tube specialist than roll the dice on eBay.
Unless some of you have found reliable eBay sellers- please share.

I've haven't felt confident in ordering from TubeWorld, it seems like their tube volumes are low, like they fished the single tubes and pairs out of an industrial garbage can. Dont get me wrong, I would fish NOS tubes out of the garbage for my own use, but not if I was selling bigger volumes on the net.

Some of the best tubes i have, came from Tube World. So I could have just found them in the trash? Next time i will start there instead. Thanks for the tip!

 

[fotomeow]

I said top shelf ones can be 1-3 times cheaper than their counterparts, but you can still dow well for $40-$50.

I recommend something like the Valvo 6201 for approx. $100 a pair for a good solid all round tube, that will sound better (to my ears) than something like Telefunken E88CC, but maybe just try the ECC82s you have already before buying more.

Here's the adapters - per unit, so order two: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Valve-T...h=item3f97d0291b:g:zWcAAOSwu4haueAn:rk:3:pf:0

Thank you AC: I'm checking out the 6201's now, $100 per matched pair not yet found. TubeWorld has the Hamburg's for $170 per pair.

 

[TK16]

Thank you AC: I'm checking out the 6201's now, $100 per matched pair not yet found. TubeWorld has the Hamburg's for $170 per pair.

I am listening to a pair of Mullard Mitcham 6201 1964's, they are fantastic tubes similar to the 6201 PW Hamburg but with a tilt to the Mullard sound signature. Roughly $100. You can find them at upscale audio.
I suggest the platinum version for $110, best shot of non microphonic tubes.
https://www.upscaleaudio.com/collec...age-british-new-old-stock?variant=21828848517
Descriptions of the grades suggest some tubes might be microphonic in gold. Bit confused on the description suggesting some may be microphonic. Mine were perfect high testing no noise/microphonics. Well above NOS testing.

 

[DRHamp]

I second what @TK16 said about those Mullard Mitchum 6201s - I got a pair also and at 60 hours, they are excellent and I think the price is right.