[igravity]

I've been reading through replies on this thread, however, I haven't been able to find what I'm looking for. I am looking to buy a set of tubes that will provide heavier bass. Currently I'm using the 691P tubes from schiit, but while they do provide some pretty solid directional sound for gaming I feel that I need more bass from my lyr. If it helps, my setup is cambridge audio dacmagic -> schiit lyr -> akg q701.
 
Thanks!

 

[OldSkool]

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I've been reading through replies on this thread, however, I haven't been able to find what I'm looking for. I am looking to buy a set of tubes that will provide heavier bass. Currently I'm using the 691P tubes from schiit, but while they do provide some pretty solid directional sound for gaming I feel that I need more bass from my lyr. If it helps, my setup is cambridge audio dacmagic -> schiit lyr -> akg q701.
 
Thanks!

To my ears, the Lorenz Stuttgarts have terrific bass, but sadly those tubes are close to unobtainium.
 
I seem to remember the Japanese Matsushiita/National PCC88s (Mullard tooling) having pretty nice bass for a reasonable price.
 
Anyone else have those and can comment on the bass?

 

[MickeyVee]

You got me interested with your note.  Been using the stock GE's for a few months now so I decided to roll in the Matsu/Nationals  E88CC 6922 Mullard Tooling. Not sure that the bass is any better than the GE's (pretty close) but I'm liking what I'm getting out of the mids. A little more present, detailed with better separation than forward. Not liking the highs too much - probably bringing out the HD700 peaks. The GE's seem to have a wider soundstage which I love, a little less mid detail, bass is about the same and maybe rolled off highs which suits the HD700.
Think I'm going to stick with the GE's.  YMMV.
Wish I didn't sell off my Lorenz but they helped pay for my Bifrost - wait a minute - sold the unobtaniums to you 

 Sounds like you're enjoying them! 

 
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To my ears, the Lorenz Stuttgarts have terrific bass, but sadly those tubes are close to unobtainium.
 
I seem to remember the Japanese Matsushiita/National PCC88s (Mullard tooling) having pretty nice bass for a reasonable price.
 
Anyone else have those and can comment on the bass?

 

[Kojaku]

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You got me interested with your note.  Been using the stock GE's for a few months now so I decided to roll in the Matsu/Nationals  E88CC 6922 Mullard Tooling. Not sure that the bass is any better than the GE's (pretty close) but I'm liking what I'm getting out of the mids. A little more present, detailed with better separation than forward. Not liking the highs too much - probably bringing out the HD700 peaks. The GE's seem to have a wider soundstage which I love, a little less mid detail, bass is about the same and maybe rolled off highs which suits the HD700.
Think I'm going to stick with the GE's.  YMMV.
Wish I didn't sell off my Lorenz but they helped pay for my Bifrost - wait a minute - sold the unobtaniums to you 

 Sounds like you're enjoying them!
 

I would die for a pair of those...Valvos and Mullards too...phew so much possibility. I think Gold Lions are up next for me. Either that or the Matsus.
 
Kojaku

 

[paradoxper]

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To my ears, the Lorenz Stuttgarts have terrific bass, but sadly those tubes are close to unobtainium.
 
I seem to remember the Japanese Matsushiita/National PCC88s (Mullard tooling) having pretty nice bass for a reasonable price.
 
Anyone else have those and can comment on the bass?

The Bugle Boys are pretty good as well as the Mullards.
 
I didn't find the Nationals to be that great, similar to the GE's, I'd say.
 
One of the best tubes I found were the Siemen A-frames.
I'm not sure about pricing, I picked mine up from Mrscary for $120.
A buddy got a quote from Brent Jessee that said they were in upwards of $400,
I then traded those for more Lorenz. 

 
As mentioned before the RCA clear tops and black plates are quite nice themselves.
I've also heard the cheapo Lorenz SEL are pretty good.

 

[MickeyVee]

I think I'm going to try the Gold Lions and then call it a day.  This tube rolling thing may just force me to get a solid state amp 

 but never going to give up the Lyr.  Love it!
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I would die for a pair of those...Valvos and Mullards too...phew so much possibility. I think Gold Lions are up next for me. Either that or the Matsus.
 
Kojaku

 

[MickeyVee]

After doing some swapping last night and listening to the Nationals this morning, I pretty much agree with this. In my case, I prefer the GE.
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I didn't find the Nationals to be that great, similar to the GE's, I'd say.
 
 

 

[musicinmymind]

I want to try Lorenz with Lyr+HE-400,
 
someone please share link to buy them, I am new to tubes and not sure about right match one's

 

[paradoxper]

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I want to try Lorenz with Lyr+HE-400,
 
someone please share link to buy them, I am new to tubes and not sure about right match one's

You just need to pay special attention to the getters, to make sure you're getting either 2-mica or 3-mica Stuttgarts.
 
Also, I would believe your best bet at finding a pair would be from a Head-Fi'er. 

 

[OldSkool]

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After doing some swapping last night and listening to the Nationals this morning, I pretty much agree with this. In my case, I prefer the GE.

Sorry guys, looks like I was mis-remembering the bass level of the Matsu's. I couldn't check because I no longer had them.
 
I should have kept better notes.  Also, the sun was in my eyes and I had a rock in my shoe.

 

[paradoxper]

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Sorry guys, looks like I was mis-remembering the bass level of the Matsu's. I couldn't check because I no longer had them.
 
I should have kept better notes.  Also, the sun was in my eyes and I had a rock in my shoe.

LOL! What
 
Were your shoes untied as well, but you had your hands full so there was nothing you could do...

 

[mikiphile]

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I've been reading through replies on this thread, however, I haven't been able to find what I'm looking for. I am looking to buy a set of tubes that will provide heavier bass. Currently I'm using the 691P tubes from schiit, but while they do provide some pretty solid directional sound for gaming I feel that I need more bass from my lyr. If it helps, my setup is cambridge audio dacmagic -> schiit lyr -> akg q701.
 
Thanks!

 
I use the CV2492 Mullard for my K701.. and they are BRILLIANT. They give much more body to my K701 (and i am sure they will do even better with the Qs)
 
In fact, do you guys know where I can find a replacement for these tubes because I feel like they are failing me 

 I love them so much and recently they have been making too much noise. I decided to give them some rest. I really wanna have them replaced.. with either new CV2942 (or even CV2943) or something else.. any suggestions guys?

 

[paradoxper]

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I use the CV2492 Mullard for my K701.. and they are BRILLIANT. They give much more body to my K701 (and i am sure they will do even better with the Qs)
 
In fact, do you guys know where I can find a replacement for these tubes because I feel like they are failing me 

 I love them so much and recently they have been making too much noise. I decided to give them some rest. I really wanna have them replaced.. with either new CV2942 (or even CV2943) or something else.. any suggestions guys?

1. No info on stock
 
2. In stock - Limited - HURRY!

 

[musicinmymind]

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I want to try Lorenz with Lyr+HE-400,
 
someone please share link to buy them, I am new to tubes and not sure about right match one's

You just need to pay special attention to the getters, to make sure you're getting either 2-mica or 3-mica Stuttgarts.
 
Also, I would believe your best bet at finding a pair would be from a Head-Fi'er. 

 
Thanks for Replay,
 
I found a pair of PCC88/7DJ8 LORENZ SEL in ebay, not sure 2-mica or 3-mica...
 
it is listed as "PCC88/7DJ8 LORENZ SEL NOS Tube Röhre Lampe TSF Valvola Valvula", how to identify 2-mica or 3-mica

 

[paradoxper]

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Thanks for Replay,
 
I found a pair of PCC88/7DJ8 LORENZ SEL in ebay, not sure 2-mica or 3-mica...
 
it is listed as "PCC88/7DJ8 LORENZ SEL NOS Tube Röhre Lampe TSF Valvola Valvula", how to identify 2-mica or 3-mica

Ah, you dont' have to worry about 2-mica or 3-mica with the Lorenz SEL. The 2-mica and 3-mica variants are the Lorenz Stuttgart.