[mmayer167]

any lorenz, well i just looked and it looks like there are only one left of every type bummer

M

http://www.tubemonger.com/MPs_MINT_NOS_Ei_PCC88_1968_Lorenz_SEL_Falcon_logo_p/801.htm spose you could try these

 

[pseudohippy]

I don't think Tubemonger has any more matched pairs of the Lorenz tubes. I bought a pair of these Mullard's http://www.tubemonger.com/Mullard_MPs_Like_New_1969_78_E88CC_CV2492_Mitcham_p/555.htm
 
Got them earlier today and I really like them. Compared to the stock JJ's it's like a veil has been lifted. More clarity, bigger sound stage. An all around improvement to my ears.

Ok thanks, done deal. I hope I like them, if anything they will be something different.

 

[MrScary]

There are quite a few Lorenz on the Tubemonger site, I would have no clue which one I should get.

Go with the Mullards man I would suggest the Lorenz but they be gone we all snatched them up. The Mullards are very nice either the IEC's or the E88CC both sound great.

 

[lootbag]

So I went through all 133 pages of this thread and decided I had to tube roll just to see what all this hype is about.
(The Lyr is my first desktop and first tube amp by the way)
 
Since you guys have swooped up pretty every pair of tubes I wanted to buy, I bought some from a fellow Head-Fier.
Went with the Reflector 6N23Ps and Brimar E88CCs.
I hope they will be a welcome change from the stock GE 6BZ7s.
Impressions will follow!

 

[sperandeo]

Okay I am fu$/3n freaking out here!!!

My 1960's Stuttgart Lorenz PCC 88 squats arrived today. A lovely matched pair 13,500-13,500. I plugged them in, turned the Lyr on, and left them alone for around 30 minutes. Then I played one of my favorite songs. I couldn't believe what I heard. I feel like I have a new amp.

I noticed right away that the amp felt so much cleaner that I raised the volume from the normal 12:00 position to it's new home at 1:00. I have been listening for about an hour and it's outstanding.

I would like to thank MrScary for his suggestions. I have tried at least 4 tubes on the Lyr and these are the best I've heard.

I am going to keep listening late into the night.

Wow.

 

[jamato8]

Wow, I get back and want to order a pair of the Lorenz and you guys bought them all! Well maybe some other time. 

 

[sperandeo]

The difference in bass and treble is blowing my mind. It seems more defined, of a higher caliber.

 

[sperandeo]

Wow, I get back and want to order a pair of the Lorenz and you guys bought them all! Well maybe some other time. 

Put these tubes on your must have list. I'm sure you can find a pair if you search high and low. I can't believe I'm loving these so quickly. It usually takes me a few days to understand and love or hate a new tweak. This was instant.

You know how the LCD's are considered a little dark on the high end? NOT ANY MORE. The balance between low, mid and high sounds in perfect balance. It's magical.

best tweak I have EVER done!!!!!!

 

[jamato8]

Quote:

Put these tubes on your must have list. I'm sure you can find a pair if you search high and low. I can't believe I'm loving these so quickly. It usually takes me a few days to understand and love or hate a new tweak. This was instant.
You know how the LCD's are considered a little dark on the high end? NOT ANY MORE. The balance between low, mid and high sounds in perfect balance. It's magical.
best tweak I have EVER done!!!!!!

Great. I would like to know how they sound in a week or so. 
 
 

 

[flu_fighter]

Sent you an email, John.
 
Quote:

Wow, I get back and want to order a pair of the Lorenz and you guys bought them all! Well maybe some other time. 

 

 

[Eisenbart]

Anyone tried the Telefunken PCC88's? I think a pair of those will be next on my list of things to buy. 
That could be awhile though. Between the Lyr and the Mullard's I don't have much spending money
 
Been listening to those Mullard's all evening and I'm having a similar experience to sperandeo. I'm hearing stuff I haven't heard before and everything else sounds so much cleaner. Very Very happy, 90 bucks well spent.

 

[WNBC]

Listening to the Lorenz 3-mica.  Don't regret this purchase.  You guys were spot on.  Excellent mid-bass and low end.  Combined with a very nice soundstage, imaging and clarity.  Details galore.  I'm going to listen to these tubes for a couple weeks then throw the Siemens CCa back on to do a comparison.

 

[sperandeo]

First night with these babies and I can't stop listening.

If these get better with burn-in my head is going to explode with joy.

 

[HK_sends]

Quote:

Anyone tried the Telefunken PCC88's? I think a pair of those will be next on my list of things to buy. 
That could be awhile though. Between the Lyr and the Mullard's I don't have much spending money
 
Been listening to those Mullard's all evening and I'm having a similar experience to sperandeo. I'm hearing stuff I haven't heard before and everything else sounds so much cleaner. Very Very happy, 90 bucks well spent.

If you get Telefunken PCC88 tubes, make sure they were manufactured by Siemens.  They won't have the diamond on the bottom, but will have the four ridges on the top of the tubes that are characteristic of Siemens manufacture.  They are about as good as the Lorenz tubes:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/pair-2-Telefunken-PCC88-7DJ8-6DJ8-ECC88-NOS-NIB-/290615654529?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item43aa0af881#ht_991wt_1396
 
Hope this helps...
 
Cheers!

-HK sends
 

 
 

 

[sperandeo]

I'm going to be honest, I thought twice about ordering these tubes. I had already tried 4 tubes and didn't think they would make much of a difference. I really had a hard time justifying 100.00 for a set of tubes. But I trusted the advice on these forums and it has made me a very happy dude.
I'm not going to work tomorrow......well I can't work with these things on my head.