Schiit Lyr - The tube rolling thread
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Jun 30, 2013 at 1:57 PM Post #8,176 of 8,735
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The A frames I have seem to sound their best with the Senn HD650.

 
 
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I have the orange globe Aframes very nice never had o getters so can not compare

nice to hear! I suppose that if o frames are priced more they should sound better, but my O pair is newer looking than the o frame coming in.
 
either way I believe comparison is going to be due to you guys.
 
Jun 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM Post #8,177 of 8,735
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just posted a very efficient way to clean tube pins in another thread, but maybe some of the tube rolling thread members are interested in my solution, so just crossposting the link here:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/632518/analog-paper-2-discussion-and-appreciation-thread/630#post_9573905

sounds like you are a tube pro, what could you tell me about the necessity of cleaning pins? I can see some non gold ones I have are not what you could call shining new steel, but does that even matter? I am using the 50 buck a pair socket savers so I really don't mind(they are available as cosmetic imperfect pairs for 30 too on ebay), 
 
the only reason I am not cleaning them is because I currently can't find my exacto knife among my boxes from moving. Does sound suffer from dirty pins? What qualify as dirty or cleaning worthy?
 
Jun 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM Post #8,178 of 8,735
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sick of tube hunting on ebay, 
 
i just found some cheap telefunkens sold by upscale audio.
 
ordered 
cryo platinum teles ​
from
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/products/Telefunken-E88CC-%7B47%7D-6922.html 
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/products/Telefunken-E88CC-%7B47%7D-6922.html
for 274 bucks
 
 
about the same price I paid for what seem to be regular teles sold by tubemuseum.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290904826507?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
I regret having bought there a few days ago but oh well. Doesn't matter now if I could have bought them for 180 bucks as regular grade tubes with no cryo treatment from upscale-.-they are what you would call best of the best tubes, so I guess I should not be cheap on them--so I went for cryo and platinum instead of taking advantage of the cheaper pricing
 
Anyone can tell if  ( i bought the second pair) are comparable to the upscale audio ones? I have no idea how you can tell which telefunkens are better, they all seem the same except the upscale ones obviously look much newer, or at least from the picture, who knows how many they have and they probably won't even tell you information on the cryo treatment or the results they got for that platinum certification.
 
also ordered these for end game cryo gold ions
 
http://www.cryoset.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=81&products_id=324&osCsid=120e2b1e84df8fe47fba3f0f30c1edd2
 
I already received these but still haven't listened to it much
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400505220853?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
going to compare these seemingly regular lions to the super cryo ones above.
 
have these coming in
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161055748879?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350817155962?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 as end game dampers
 
I was about to  buy this
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/390615723907?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
 
but it seems like they were sold at 60 bucks lowest and this particular listing takes 1.5 month max to get to my place which is absurd so it will have to pass. Not much props heard about these green military JAN amperex 6922 anyways--if i am correct these things should have the globe UFO figure too, as seen on other listings such as this one
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Amperex-Globe-6922-6DJ8-tubes-gold-pin-/111048271232?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item19dafe2580&nma=true&si=o4t08HDgpOSol%252FqsA6jc0Jxp5QQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
 
TLDR/.moral of the story
 
bought a bunch of ****, made a bunch of mistakes, but I tried, and now I am burnt out mentally physically and financially and I am good to sit back and enjoy the music, oh no wait, i still have 10 pages of tubes on watch list on ebay, some 10 listings outbid, shall I ignore?
 
I think enough is enough. 
 
I hope people can learn from my experience...just my 2 cents
 
oh, and as I speak I just ordered these cryo-ed platinum grade
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/matsu****a-national-pcc88-7dj8/
 
for a subtotal of 86 bucks..OMG what is wrong with me.--
 
after i bought them I checked the 37 reviews, and found at least one other LYR owner who bought the exact same thing. CHEERS
 
All the meanwhile I am listening to some Kertesz/ancerl/kubelik/paray/neumann Dvorak From the New World 9th symphony.

Those dampers you ordered look pretty cool, but I hope you already have socket savers, or you won't be able to use them.
 
You've had a LOT of activity!  Time to rest a bit and take stock. 
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Jun 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM Post #8,179 of 8,735
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just posted a very efficient way to clean tube pins in another thread, but maybe some of the tube rolling thread members are interested in my solution, so just crossposting the link here:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/632518/analog-paper-2-discussion-and-appreciation-thread/630#post_9573905

Interesting.  Thanks for the link! 
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Jun 30, 2013 at 2:57 PM Post #8,180 of 8,735
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sounds like you are a tube pro, what could you tell me about the necessity of cleaning pins? I can see some non gold ones I have are not what you could call shining new steel, but does that even matter? I am using the 50 buck a pair socket savers so I really don't mind(they are available as cosmetic imperfect pairs for 30 too on ebay), 
 
the only reason I am not cleaning them is because I currently can't find my exacto knife among my boxes from moving. Does sound suffer from dirty pins? What qualify as dirty or cleaning worthy?

Dirty pins can create connection issues.  this can manifest itself as noise, and if bad enough, malfunction.
 
After cleaning my pins, I like to put a bit of Deoxit on.  It keeps the pins clean so the connection stays good, and it makes insertion and extraction easier.
 
http://www.amazon.com/DeoxIT-25cc-Precision-Dispenser-100%25/dp/B0000YH6F8/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1372618502&sr=8-15&keywords=deoxit
 
It should be noted that you shouldn't scrape any gold plated pins, just clean with a solvent like isopropyl alcohol. Then apply the Deoxit.
 
Jun 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM Post #8,181 of 8,735
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Dirty pins can create connection issues.  this can manifest itself as noise, and if bad enough, malfunction.
 
After cleaning my pins, I like to put a bit of Deoxit on.  It keeps the pins clean so the connection stays good, and it makes insertion and extraction easier.
 
http://www.amazon.com/DeoxIT-25cc-Precision-Dispenser-100%25/dp/B0000YH6F8/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1372618502&sr=8-15&keywords=deoxit
 
It should be noted that you shouldn't scrape any gold plated pins, just clean with a solvent like isopropyl alcohol. Then apply the Deoxit.

do i HAVE to worry about this tho?
 
btw do you know what kind of allen wrench is needed if the volumn knob came off loose and fail to function?
 
1/16" allen wrench is what jason told me to get. I had something from RC truck bashing hobby similar to 1/16" allen wrench that was a tad smaller that I used before, but I can't find that tinny little thing among all my **** so going to hardware store in a bit
 
Jun 30, 2013 at 3:06 PM Post #8,182 of 8,735
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what's special about these tubes? i saw them, probably wil not beat telefunkens ?|

Amperex 7308s are an all-around good sounding tube.  They have a good sound that doesn't overly emphasize any particular aspect...the mids and treble are very smooth.  A nice "general listening" tube.  Other than that, I just posted them as a courtesy to folks looking for tubes.
 
Cheers!
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Jun 30, 2013 at 3:10 PM Post #8,183 of 8,735
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do i HAVE to worry about this tho?
 
btw do you know what kind of allen wrench is needed if the volumn knob came off loose and fail to function?
 
1/16" allen wrench is what jason told me to get. I had something from RC truck bashing hobby similar to 1/16" allen wrench that was a tad smaller that I used before, but I can't find that tinny little thing among all my **** so going to hardware store in a bit

Unless you actually run into an issue of noise, no.  I have deoxit myself and only ever used it on a couple of tubes with very obvious corrosion on the pins.  If I do get noise issues the first thing I do is pull, swap, and reinstall the tubes...that's usually enough to ensure good contact with the pins.
 
Cheers!
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Jun 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM Post #8,184 of 8,735
Hey guys, I've been fielding some classifieds recently of those interested to buy an HE-500 from someone.
 
With the OG's that I have, I am really looking at selling my HE-500 and purchasing the Audeze LCD-2. Is it really worth the couple hundred extra for them? I am not sure if the HE-500 is a good match with the OG, IMO.
 
Maybe more burn in is necessary, I don't know.
 
 
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM Post #8,185 of 8,735
so i got the 1.5 ones and they are obviously smaller than 1/16. they barely works, but not exactly, they will secure it, but it's going to be an effort and it will rip the set screw eventually i am sure if you do it a lot.
 
On the other hand getting a 1/16 screw is going to be more of a permanent solution. I did notice however the set screw left some { } marks on the shaft.
 
Jun 30, 2013 at 5:17 PM Post #8,186 of 8,735
Hey guys, I've been fielding some classifieds recently of those interested to buy an HE-500 from someone.

With the OG's that I have, I am really looking at selling my HE-500 and purchasing the Audeze LCD-2. Is it really worth the couple hundred extra for them? I am not sure if the HE-500 is a good match with the OG, IMO.

Maybe more burn in is necessary, I don't know.

 
I would read the headphone reviews here to help decide about the LCD-2's:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13

I also wouldn't give up on the HE-500's solely because of the OG's. They may not pair well with these particular headphones.
 
Jun 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM Post #8,188 of 8,735
Yeah I think I am going to roll back to the stock GE tubes I have because I was getting a much thicker, lusher sound.

But I am sort of set on acquiring the LCD 2s though.
It doesn't sound like they're burned in enough. The more they're burned in, the clearer and more refined they become. All that said, it may just not be the ideal tube for the 500's. The OG's and the LCD-2 seems like a much different story however.
 
Jun 30, 2013 at 7:41 PM Post #8,190 of 8,735
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It doesn't sound like they're burned in enough. The more they're burned in, the clearer and more refined they become. All that said, it may just not be the ideal tube for the 500's. The OG's and the LCD-2 seems like a much different story however.

Yeah it does seem to be a much different story which is bizarre because aren't they planar magnetics? It shouldn't be that much of a difference *shrugs*
 
And Overwork, I will keep playing them and see if they improve.
 
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