[ilikepooters]

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Agreed, regarding the sound stage, in fact, regarding everything, although I haven't been running them long enough to burn anything down yet.

 
I think the best Russian tube is the 6N23P-EV made by Reflector/Saratov.
 
Not got them myself yet but from what i can glean from the interweb they have excellent bass, very transparent, speed, detail, massive soundstage and airy natural highs.
 
I think they will be my next tube purchase.

 

[DutchGFX]

70th small ogetter Cca

 

[toschek]

I think the best Russian tube is the 6N23P-EV made by Reflector/Saratov.

Not got them myself yet but from what i can glean from the interweb they have excellent bass, very transparent, speed, detail, massive soundstage and airy natural highs.

I think they will be my next tube purchase.

Yeah, that description is not very accurate. I found the soundstage to be average, it has slightly better bass and mids than the regular 6N23P but very shrieky highs and sub par (compared to say amperex a-frame dimple getter 6dj8) detail. Even though the rocket logo 623NP has a smaller soundstage (intimate would be a better word), it's a much better tube.

All in all I do not think the 6N23P-EV is worth the asking price and you would be better off with something else.

 

[claud W]

I have two headphones I am using. AKG 702 and a set of Senn HD600s w/Cardas cord. The 600s did not like the BB 6DJ8s--too smooth and homoginized sound. The 702s were just lovely with a nice midrange, decent bass and for me smooth highs. Remember--I'm 65 and my hearing ain't what it useta be. The CCas are as advertised. They wake up the 600s and further kick the 702n dynamics into high gear. I been listening to Patricia Barber and Sade. I think its almost time to do some Jack Johnson and a bit of ATB

 

[333jeffery]

If you can find them the Amperex USN and Telefunken E288CC tubes are wonderful in the Lyr. My favorites by far.

 

[Joong]

"Siemens E88CC Dual Triode Tubes Gold Pins E88cc 6922 7308 6DJ8 CCa"
 
is it a Siemens CCA?

 

[claud W]

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"Siemens E88CC Dual Triode Tubes Gold Pins E88cc 6922 7308 6DJ8 CCa"
 
is it a Siemens CCA?

Yes. I also have Telefunken 6922s and CCas yet to try, but I may return to Amperex PQ and 7308s first.

 

[toschek]

Yes. I also have Telefunken 6922s and CCas yet to try, but I may return to Amperex PQ and 7308s first.

I know what you mean, there is just something special about the Amperex 7308 and PQ tubes.

I had a chance to hear some Siemens CCa tubes over the past weekend and I know this is going to sound sacrilegious but I don't get it! These tubes are good but I don't think other than relative rarity they should command the prices that they do. For the price of one set of CCas you could pick up two or three sets of excellent alternatives. I'd much rather have a set of '58 Bugle Boy d-getters personally. I just chalk their popularity up to hype TBH and move on when I see them being discussed.

 

[ForsakenArcher]

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I just received some tubes from Bulgaria .... 2 matched for $13.60 + $9 shipping .... wasn't expecting much, but these sound very good .... though the bass is overemphasized.  This makes them perfect, however for driving something like my Q701 phones, for example.  The price went up a few dollars since I purchased, but this is a very inexpensive buy.  Oh, they're Voskhod 6N1P / ECC88 Gold Grid tubes.
 
Linky

I ordered the same tubes too. Price is good enough for trying out and having fun. Still waiting for them though. I guess it will take about two weeks to get here.

 

[Glam Bash]

I had 2 "golden dragons" go microphonic this week. It sound like static in the background. Will tube dampers Fix this or are the tubes done?

 

[dailydoseofdaly]

That's strange that two tubes would go out like that, did it happen at the same time. Have you tried another pair to see if they exhibit the same problem.
 
Dampers will help reduce vibration in the tube but static is a different issue 
 
also if you haven't yet,  try reseating the tubes in the amp, that has helped when I've had tube weirdness in the past

 

[ilikepooters]

More Siemens PCC189's have gone up on sale, i really can't reccomend these tubes highly enough, they absolutely trounce the stock tubes, absolute bargain.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-PCC189-7ES8-SIEMENS-NOS-NEW-OWN-BOX-/221207288653?pt=DE_TV_Video_Audio_Elektronenr%C3%B6hren_Valves&hash=item3380fb5b4d
 
Looks like they'll keep turning up every so often.
 
I'm intrigued to try the ECC189 variant now, only 6.3v heater instead of 7.6v so should be more akin to E88CC or CCa.

 

[Glam Bash]

The tube in the right channel got noisy and about 3 days later the left side got noisy too. No problems with 2 other sets of tubes I've used in the meantime. Kind of a shame as they had a real synergy with the Maddogs.

 

[dailydoseofdaly]

It does sound like its the tubes then, sorry man. At least (I'm assuming you ment) gold lions are not to difficult to come by

 

[Flisker]

More Siemens PCC189's have gone up on sale, i really can't reccomend these tubes highly enough, they absolutely trounce the stock tubes, absolute bargain.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-PCC189-7ES8-SIEMENS-NOS-NEW-OWN-BOX-/221207288653?pt=DE_TV_Video_Audio_Elektronenr%C3%B6hren_Valves&hash=item3380fb5b4d

Looks like they'll keep turning up every so often.

I'm intrigued to try the ECC189 variant now, only 6.3v heater instead of 7.6v so should be more akin to E88CC or CCa.

Are they better than than Lorenz E88CC ? I got Lyr yesterday tried some tubes and so far like most E88CC's. I like airy, aggresive and dynamic mids and bass with as good impact as it gets Using Lyr with HD650.

Also do you guys think this -> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/290614310990?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1600wt_754

is compatible with Lyr ? Don't think where should that long middle bolt go, because there is no hole in main sockets if I'am not wrong.

And these savers -> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-9-PIN-TUBE-SOCKET-SAVER-FOR-12AU7-12AU712AX7-ECC88-/290835055818?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item43b71ec4ca

looks like they are made from pretty cheap materials won't it affect sound somehow ?

Thanks for info guys.