Schiit Lyr - The tube rolling thread
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Dec 20, 2012 at 10:57 AM Post #4,711 of 8,735
I got a full refund from the guy on Ebay that sold me the fake "E288CC" tubes. Unfortunately, he has listed them for sale again, still marked as E288CC! If you come across some tubes marked "Siemens&Halskie E288CC" in red ink on the tubes, do not buy them. I don't know what type of tube they actually are, but they sure don't work in the Lyr.
 
Dec 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM Post #4,712 of 8,735
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Hk I don't know if this is an indicator or not but it has the same black logo as the 3mica we got from tubemonger awhile back, difference being a metal 3rd mica vs a clear mica. Did you have a listen yet?

OH YEAH!!!
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  I had a listen...
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The labels do match the ones we got from Tubemonger, and the three-mica I got from them had a clear mica as well.
 
I'm pretty sure they are the real deal!
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Cheers!
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Dec 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM Post #4,713 of 8,735
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I got a full refund from the guy on Ebay that sold me the fake "E288CC" tubes. Unfortunately, he has listed them for sale again, still marked as E288CC! If you come across some tubes marked "Siemens&Halskie E288CC" in red ink on the tubes, do not buy them. I don't know what type of tube they actually are, but they sure don't work in the Lyr.

 
Are these the tubes?
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Siemens-Halske-CCa-E88CC-6922-Grey-Shield-HOLY-GRAILS-MATCHED-PAIR-1959-/230895585580?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item35c273092c
 
Dec 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM Post #4,714 of 8,735
These are the ones: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-E288CC-SIEMENS-HALSKE-NOS-TUBES-GOLD-PINS-CODES-3-MICA-/400368283221?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d37cf2e55
 
The seller was nice about refunding my money, but he shouldn't be selling these as E288CC tubes. They won't work.
 
Dec 20, 2012 at 2:37 PM Post #4,715 of 8,735
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http://www.tubemonger.com/LORENZ_Stuttgart_PCC88_7DJ8_3MIGray_Shield_Germany_p/1057.htm
 
The biggest indicator is the shield below the "O" getter is made of a translucent material while the traditional Lorenz have shields made of metal.  It's really the only way to tell.
 
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Thanks. 
 
Dec 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM Post #4,716 of 8,735
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These are the ones: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-E288CC-SIEMENS-HALSKE-NOS-TUBES-GOLD-PINS-CODES-3-MICA-/400368283221?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d37cf2e55
 
The seller was nice about refunding my money, but he shouldn't be selling these as E288CC tubes. They won't work.

Have you or anyone else been able to get E288CC tubes to work in the Lyr before?
Just curious...I've used E188CCs but not E288CCs.
 
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Dec 20, 2012 at 6:28 PM Post #4,717 of 8,735
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Cool. What's the sound signature on those? Are they even better than Mullards?

They have warm mids and still retain fantastic low end and just haunting vocal reproduction. They are exceptionally good with the HE-500/400 and the HD650/600. I have a set of  Holland made Mullard E188cc that I like very much, they are much better.
 
Dec 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM Post #4,718 of 8,735
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They have warm mids and still retain fantastic low end and just haunting vocal reproduction. They are exceptionally good with the HE-500/400 and the HD650/600. I have a set of  Holland made Mullard E188cc that I like very much, they are much better.

 
Nice. 
 
BTW, when a tube starts going bad, what do people generally do? Since one will go out before the other, do you just throw away the pair? 
 
Dec 20, 2012 at 7:42 PM Post #4,719 of 8,735
I'm considering a Valhalla.
Does anyone have any experience with one?
 
Dec 20, 2012 at 8:21 PM Post #4,721 of 8,735
HK, the E288CC can be substituted for 6DJ8 tubes. I have several brands of these tubes, and they work fine in the Lyr. The Telefunken E288cc's sound as good as the Amperex USN tubes that folks here rave about.
 
Dec 20, 2012 at 9:24 PM Post #4,723 of 8,735
It's an OTL type amp so if you have or are getting some high impedance cans it would probably sound pretty but for orthos you probably want to stick to the lyr

Thanks.
I thought I'd try something new for my wife's kit. At least both would use ECC88's
On a completely different tangent I'm looking at the Bottlehead Crack. I've wanted to build a kit since I was a kid.
 
Dec 22, 2012 at 9:34 PM Post #4,724 of 8,735
Interesting....  At the moment, I am running a set of Mid 60's 6DJ8 Bugle Boys in my Lyr amp and a set of 1952 Raytheon 6AK5W in my Pan Am amp.  I'm feeding both amps with a Benchmark DAC1 USB and using a set of AKG K702 cans.  To my ears, they sound fairly close to identical with these particular tube combinations and the same source. The Lyr might have a bit wider and slightly more distant sound stage and the Pan Am is just a bit more front and center.  One thing is for sure, both of these tube amps make the rather cold and analytical Benchmark DAC sound wonderful.  I cannot stand the Benchmark DAC on my main stereo rig, but I love it paired with my tube headphone amps.    
 
Dec 23, 2012 at 7:05 AM Post #4,725 of 8,735
Hey guys,
 
I currently have a pair of HE-500 and after lots of careful deliberation on an amp/ dac combo I think I'll be going with the Lyr/ Bifrost, although my budget could allow for more.
 
In light of me going well under my intended budget, I think I'd like to spoil myself with a pair of some top notch tubes. My music tastes are all over the place, all forms of rock and jazz, lots of instrumental music (including hip hop), some pop, classical music, bluegrass and pretty much anything relating to those genres.
 
Is there a standout pair of tubes that can be had for <$400 a pair (absolute max for my tube budget, and they'd have to be unbelievably good for me to pay that much) that matches my set up and music taste?
 
I would greatly appreciate links to reputable sites and I welcome all recommendations.
 
Currently considering:
 
Mullard CV4109 NOS - Matched Pair
Siemens E188CC/ 7803
Amperex 6922/ E88CC - Late 50s pair
Siemens CCa - West German production
Telefunken 6DJ8/ E88CC - Matched pair
 
anything else that would be good for my budget? looking for the BEST!
 
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