Duke650
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Jason - I just read your latest - very insightful. I can't help thinking that you've somehow (whether intentional or unintentional - I'm not sure) trying to make a correlation that the guys relying on measurements/science rather than what we hear (or in the example taste) are somehow possibly inferior?
In my trade I deal with the food industry, and I've also dealt with a lot of chefs - and some very good ones. To maybe balance the equation a bit, I'd point out that most really good chefs (at least the ones I know), are extremely well read, know the science of cooking very well - and because of this they create better food and earn their stars.
I was lucky enough to stay with one of our chefs for 3 days last time I was in the US - and it was a real eye opener being able to stand alongside him as he cooked, and pepper him with questions. The amazing thing was how well they understood the science of cooking. What happens to the cells under heat. Why our taste buds react the way they do. How our tastes react, and how much indicators other than taste affect us.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that the great chefs (at least in my experience) are the ones that have both creativity, and truly understand the science behind what they are doing.
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but it reads to me like you are deliberately stoking the "objectist/subjectist divide"
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Jason - I just read your latest - very insightful. I can't help thinking that you've somehow (whether intentional or unintentional - I'm not sure) trying to make a correlation that the guys relying on measurements/science rather than what we hear (or in the example taste) are somehow possibly inferior?
I wouldn't be so sure that we know exactly what to measure, or how exactly to measure it, especially when it comes to a device that plays music that stirs emotions.
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Michelin starred chefs are expensive, have long waiting times and then there's El Bulli who use food science and Michelin chefs to achieve unprecedented results.
ElBulli was $300+ a plate, had a waiting list a year long, and ranked #1 in the world multiple times. It never achieved a profit and finally closed due to financial losses. I'm sure Schiit would love to have access to audiophile research and technology on the level of TI. But without a way to recoup those costs it'd drag Schiit down and we'd all be worse off because of it.
The way to push the envelope on hi-fi is increase the size of the user base. In order to increase the user base it needs to be accessible. $30k speakers aren't accessible. Tidal, Modi, Magni, Piston 2's, Q701's, HD598's...these are the products that are going to help push the envelope for hi-fi. More potential buyers means Schiit will be willing to spend more money on R&D, knowing that they will recoup the costs. If we want electrostatic products from Schiit, we just have to give them a way to recoup their expenses. Unfortunately 99% of the current audio users aren't aware these products even exist. They walk in Best Buy and drop $300 on a set of Beats thinking they'll achieve audio nirvana. It's sad to think more R&D dollars are probably being spent on choosing out popular colors for Beats than Audeze spends on research for their entire company.
but it reads to me like you are deliberately stoking the "objectist/subjectist divide"
Yep, please do so! Sorry I didn't clarify that...even though there's a version that I've released for sale (mainly for people who really really want a hard copy) that doesn't invalidate the community-created versions...and they will be more comprehensive than the one I did in any case.