[Pietro Cozzi Tinin]

i say to all with nose/ear problems to swim in cold sea. Cleans fantastically those important open spaces and also good for blood circulation. Brrrrr feels so good

The New Year's Dip in The Hague. It'll freeze your nuts.

 

[Hofy]

I was 54 when I realized I had mild tinnitus. YMMV as they say... I wish I had worn ear protection more often. I don't know if it was decades of loud computer fans or demolition work with hammer on pry-bars right over my head. Ringing around 4k which matches steel on steel Bad, compressed music and low bit-rate mp3's aggravate it.

Like I said I work in a very noisy environment now. The company gives us a hearing test every year and charts the results. I can not believe how bad the hearing is on some of the 20-30 year olds I work with.

 

[RCBinTN]

I think wearing earplugs in loud environments is the best advice.
Oh, and watch the headphone volume. Resolving HPs and high-quality music sound better at moderate volume anyway

 

[r2muchstuff]

I ordered a pair of 600 ohm Beyerdynamic cans for my hot-glowing-toaster-lava-lamp perched on top of my listening nook. 100% silliness (I have all the headphone that I need). At double the impedance of my other cans, I’m really curious of the SQ outcome. Oh, them glowing orbs...
So ~5000h tube life, eh. Nice. For casual worknight listening, I’ll still fire up my newly-aquired Asgard 2 (as part of the classic stack). I’m one of THOSE people who neurotically turn the power toggle on-and-off nightly.

I have two 600 ohm Beyerdynamic. T1 and DT880. The T1 is of course wonderful with my tube Schiit. The DT880 is outstanding from the Modi MB/Vali 2 and vintage silver stuff.
The Vali 2 is adapted to 6SN7, currently a 6H8C Pano (Reflektor Plant) - 1961 - OTK - Bottom Rectangle Getter - Grey T Aligned 2 Hole Plates.

Marvelous, just marvelous

 

[Tim van der Leeuw]

The Mayo Clinic and just about every other hearing specialist disagrees. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tinnitus/symptoms-causes/syc-20350156

I know someone who's got rather severe tinnitus after having been through a very stressful period in his life. In his case, exposure to loud noise had nothing to do with it.

Just to underscore that it's not _per se_ an ear-related problem, nor _per se_ caused by listening to too loud music / concerts / etc.

 

[shultzee]

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tinnitus/symptoms-causes/syc-20350156

Cause of tinnitus

 

[Rensek]

A collection of Bifrost 2 thoughts I shared with friends as I was listening to it for the first time. This was after I left it running for 9 ish hours while at a family gathering.

There is something to this DAC. As I write this blurb I'm only one song of semi serious listening in, with Spotify, and a heater running in the background....and it sounds different....But a good different.

So I'm thinking the schiit dacs I have already perform at pretty high cost to performance value. I'm not hearing any new parts, instruments, or sounds, but I am hearing LOTS of things differently.

On Do It Again by Steely Dan (Qobuz from now in my). I'm hearing more detail and texture in the parts that are there. The intro sounds particularly more detailed. Reminded me of the shaker test on the chesky ultimate test disc.

Fast guitar and bass guitar parts are coming through quite clearly.

You can almost see the fingers on the guitar moving 100 times faster then I can type. This is in reference to Gordon Lightfoot "If you could read my mind"

This DAC seems to combine what I like about the Bifrost 4490, and what I like about the modi multibit.I felt like bifrost 4490 was more detailed then mimby. But mimby had this fullness to it that the the 4490 didn't.

I'm not sure the phase switch button does anything for me. I'm listening to Fancy by Reba now. Sounds like the phase button adds and unwelcome fullness or harshness to Reba's voice. But it's really really subtle.

If I get a chance on Saturday or Sunday I'm going to A/B/C/D Sol, mimby, 4490 and bif 2. Going to use side 1 of Dire Straits Brothers in Arms.

From Now On, Super Tramp, Even In the Quietest Moments, is a piano heavy tune. Rolloff ( or is it decay?) on bifrost 2 seems more extended then Bifrost 4490. The piano on Bifrost 2 doesn't stop reverberating before the next notes are played. It seemed to hit silence on the 4490 before the next note was hit.

Early impressions seems like the bass might have a lot more definition and texture. Aside from the bass, it's almost like a new seasoning in a favorite dish that you can't quite put your finger on. It seems like it just has something more over the bifrost 4490, in terms of body and fullness, but as much detail ( or more). It seems like it has way more detail then the modi multibit, and a good deal more of that real, visceral, analogue fullness that modi multibit has. To my ears the Bifrost 2 sounds like it takes the best parts of Bifrost 4490 and modi multibit, and surpasses them.

Now I've only used the optical input so far. My system is Qobuz > Chromecast Audio > Bifrost 2 > OG Saga > Vidar > Zu Omen DW. I've been busy with the holidays and am typing this up from my phone while holding a sleeping baby at celebration 6 of 6. Unison will hopefully be tried out this weekend.

It's early yet and while many of the changes have been subtle, they still felt very powerful. This is likely an end game DAC for me. I can't imagine spending cash on a Gungnir Multibit for roughly twice the price. I don't think I'll need to flavor my sound with a different DAC.

This whole setup makes the Zu DW sound even more magical to me then they did before. The tone, separation, detail, depth, imaging, etc that I hear are pretty awesome. I love a good wall of sound. This setup sounds big to me. My triangle is about 8 x 8 x 8 ft. Speakers are about 10 inches from the back shelving/cabinets, 16 in from the side walls. Toed in to meet 1-2 feet behind my head. From what I hear in this setup the sounds just seems to emanate from the air. The Bifrost 2 definitely enhanced this feeling.

Apologies if this was long and rambling. Takes way longer to try and type out what a person hears, and moments to hear it.

Great first impressions. I'm no longer wondering what I'm missing.

 

[tincanear]

A collection of Bifrost 2 thoughts I shared with friends as I was listening to it for the first time. This was after I left it running for 9 ish hours while at a family gathering.

There is something to this DAC. As I write this blurb I'm only one song of semi serious listening in, with Spotify, and a heater running in the background....and it sounds different....But a good different.

So I'm thinking the schiit dacs I have already perform at pretty high cost to performance value. I'm not hearing any new parts, instruments, or sounds, but I am hearing LOTS of things differently.

On Do It Again by Steely Dan (Qobuz from now in my). I'm hearing more detail and texture in the parts that are there. The intro sounds particularly more detailed. Reminded me of the shaker test on the chesky ultimate test disc.

Fast guitar and bass guitar parts are coming through quite clearly.

You can almost see the fingers on the guitar moving 100 times faster then I can type. This is in reference to Gordon Lightfoot "If you could read my mind"

This DAC seems to combine what I like about the Bifrost 4490, and what I like about the modi multibit.I felt like bifrost 4490 was more detailed then mimby. But mimby had this fullness to it that the the 4490 didn't.

I'm not sure the phase switch button does anything for me. I'm listening to Fancy by Reba now. Sounds like the phase button adds and unwelcome fullness or harshness to Reba's voice. But it's really really subtle.

If I get a chance on Saturday or Sunday I'm going to A/B/C/D Sol, mimby, 4490 and bif 2. Going to use side 1 of Dire Straits Brothers in Arms.

From Now On, Super Tramp, Even In the Quietest Moments, is a piano heavy tune. Rolloff ( or is it decay?) on bifrost 2 seems more extended then Bifrost 4490. The piano on Bifrost 2 doesn't stop reverberating before the next notes are played. It seemed to hit silence on the 4490 before the next note was hit.

Early impressions seems like the bass might have a lot more definition and texture. Aside from the bass, it's almost like a new seasoning in a favorite dish that you can't quite put your finger on. It seems like it just has something more over the bifrost 4490, in terms of body and fullness, but as much detail ( or more). It seems like it has way more detail then the modi multibit, and a good deal more of that real, visceral, analogue fullness that modi multibit has. To my ears the Bifrost 2 sounds like it takes the best parts of Bifrost 4490 and modi multibit, and surpasses them.

Now I've only used the optical input so far. My system is Qobuz > Chromecast Audio > Bifrost 2 > OG Saga > Vidar > Zu Omen DW. I've been busy with the holidays and am typing this up from my phone while holding a sleeping baby at celebration 6 of 6. Unison will hopefully be tried out this weekend.

It's early yet and while many of the changes have been subtle, they still felt very powerful. This is likely an end game DAC for me. I can't imagine spending cash on a Gungnir Multibit for roughly twice the price. I don't think I'll need to flavor my sound with a different DAC.

This whole setup makes the Zu DW sound even more magical to me then they did before. The tone, separation, detail, depth, imaging, etc that I hear are pretty awesome. I love a good wall of sound. This setup sounds big to me. My triangle is about 8 x 8 x 8 ft. Speakers are about 10 inches from the back shelving/cabinets, 16 in from the side walls. Toed in to meet 1-2 feet behind my head. From what I hear in this setup the sounds just seems to emanate from the air. The Bifrost 2 definitely enhanced this feeling.

Apologies if this was long and rambling. Takes way longer to try and type out what a person hears, and moments to hear it.

Great first impressions. I'm no longer wondering what I'm missing.

try the phase switch out on some ACOUSTIC (not synthesized) drum tracks...Sheffield drum record or CD

 

[tafens]

I know someone who's got rather severe tinnitus after having been through a very stressful period in his life. In his case, exposure to loud noise had nothing to do with it.

Just to underscore that it's not _per se_ an ear-related problem, nor _per se_ caused by listening to too loud music / concerts / etc.

I don’t know how to really correlate my own experience with this discussion; I’m not sure loud
noises have nothing to do with it.

(TMI-warning; sensitive readers skip this paragraph and continue below)
I have tinnitus in one ear and is a high pitched whine, I guess in the 12-13 kHz range. It varies in volume from disturbing to almost non-existent. Usually it is low when I wake up in the morning but can start during the day either just randomly or due to some loud noise. It can be aggravated by loud noises as well, but usually not by music or other “controlled” sounds.

Anyway, here’s the deal; I find two causes for mine. First, I got a head injury in an accident that caused hearing loss, some got better after time but some remained permanently. No tinnitus there. But, second, years after, I got it by listening to some music way too loud.

So, one can argue that it was not caused by loud sounds in its root cause, but it was certainly triggered by it, or the loud sound gave the final blow. Maybe, as with DACs, amps, and headphones, there is no single truth in this matter.

 

[Pietro Cozzi Tinin]

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tinnitus/symptoms-causes/syc-20350156

Cause of tinnitus

bad website as quoted some posts ago.
let's stop the discussion.
I'm sorry that I started it by giving a medical view.
I will not do that again.

 

[Odin412]

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tinnitus/symptoms-causes/syc-20350156

Cause of tinnitus

Good article! When I was diagnosed with Tinnitus my doctor said that there are three ailments that are almost impossible to properly diagnose since the causes are so varied: Headaches, dizziness and Tinnitus.

 

[Pietro Cozzi Tinin]

Good article! When I was diagnosed with Tinnitus my doctor said that there are three ailments that are almost impossible to properly diagnose since the causes are so varied: Headaches, dizziness and Tinnitus.

My last remark as a doctor. NO it's not a good article. It's far too incomplete.
Take it from someone who knows.
Please do not judge the merit of a serious subject as this as a non medical professional.
Sometimes it kills people.
That's my last warning.

 

[shultzee]

My last remark as a doctor. NO it's not a good article. It's far too incomplete.
Take it from someone who knows.
Please do not judge the merit of a serious subject as this as a non medical professional.
Sometimes it kills people.
That's my last warning.

This is from the Mayo Clinic. I think you need to research who they are.

 

[Balthazar B]

This is from the Mayo Clinic. I think you need to research who they are.

Perhaps European medicine ≠ North American medicine ≠ Asian medicine? So maybe arguing is just futile.

 

[bobbmd]

My last remark as a doctor. NO it's not a good article. It's far too incomplete.
Take it from someone who knows.
Please do not judge the merit of a serious subject as this as a non medical professional.
Sometimes it kills people.
That's my last warning.

@Pietro Cozzi Tinin: I agree with YOU-plus not really that great a place to refer patients either and all it takes is an 800# and records-- costs patient a gizzlion$ for travel staying there plus so much testing if you or I did it we would investigated for 'over/needless testing' by cms/bcbs etc and most of the time offer little or no help or solution(Lou Gehrig was the exception and he still died)